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The hatred towards cyclists/horse riders etc

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RH1234 · 06/08/2025 17:53

Following on from a conversation on another thread; AIBU to think that the hatred towards all cyclists/other road users I.e. horses is completely atrocious and unjustified.

Lots of people will make comments about “I bet they were in Lycra”, “I dislike road cyclists”, “they don’t even pay road tax”.

My question is not; do you hate cyclists. My question is why do you hate me someone you have not met) as a cyclist?

For perspective:

  1. I pay VED (Road tax doesn’t exist) on 3 vehicles.
  2. I have insurance for my bikes - which includes public liability etc. My cycle insurance is genuinely more expensive than my car, I also have free insurance through British Cycling.
  3. I don’t run red lights (for transparency, I have been through one red light, floor sensors don’t pick up carbon fibre, it was 5am, after waiting a few minutes, with no cars I went through)
  4. I cycle an average of 19-23mph, I can overtake tractors near me, I’m smaller than a tractor surely you can pass me.
  5. I do ride two abreast if in a group, but if passing is difficult, as per the Highway Code we ensure you can pass when safe.
  6. When riding on my own, I wave cars past so they can often go before they can see.
  7. Yes I wear Lycra - but you try cycling 100 miles without decent chamois in place. I won’t mention leg hair as that’s a whole different subject for you.
  8. My wife use to love cycling, but won’t ride on the road now due to the drivers attitudes.

AIBU to be annoyed that I don’t do any of the things people moan about, yet people will hate me, some people will hurl abuse, some people will literally try and drive me off the road (luckily not that often for the last one)

All I want is, to enjoy the sport I’m love, get fit and then spend the time with my family. Yet my wife has said to me, she is anxious when I’m out and follows me on find my iPhone, because she’s terrified someone will one day leave me for dead in a ditch.

Surely a two minute delay is not unreasonable? I don’t judge based on hobbies or backgrounds, why am I judged?

AIBU in thinking that those who state they hate cyclists clearly are either media influenced or just plain horrible people.

Apologies, this has turned into more of a rant than a AIBU, but I’m sure you get the gist.

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TheSwarm · 08/08/2025 14:55

mintydoggyv · 08/08/2025 14:30

Least we forget , 80 per cent of all cyclists by the age of 50 need hip and knee replacement s and cost our NHS billions , then there are around 2000 fatality s of cyclists a year on our roads , thus l am pleased l only one knee and one replacement, then not everyone can ride a bike ,due to old age and disabilities, what we do need is more accountability from cyclist by having a mandatory insurance for all bikes and a cycling license so cyclist eyes and health can be checked

" 80 per cent of all cyclists by the age of 50 need hip and knee replacements"

No they don't. That's patently made-up nonsense.

mintydoggyv · 08/08/2025 15:39

Collflower and cheese

Chompingatthebeat · 08/08/2025 15:46

mintydoggyv · 08/08/2025 14:30

Least we forget , 80 per cent of all cyclists by the age of 50 need hip and knee replacement s and cost our NHS billions , then there are around 2000 fatality s of cyclists a year on our roads , thus l am pleased l only one knee and one replacement, then not everyone can ride a bike ,due to old age and disabilities, what we do need is more accountability from cyclist by having a mandatory insurance for all bikes and a cycling license so cyclist eyes and health can be checked

The fatalities are mainly due to motor vehicles, shall we not allow women out to lower the rape numbers?

Chompingatthebeat · 08/08/2025 15:51

DysgraphiaQueen · 08/08/2025 12:10

"If you really care about making the roads safer, what you do is get people out of cars and onto bikes and public transport etc. You don't get people onto bikes by putting pointless barriers in the way." 😂

I guess you either live in a city or a town where the topography is very flat?

So how many trades people, delivery people, a majority of the work force that need equipment, large families going shopping, tip runs, ect are you going to get on bikes?

Supermarkets deliver, some tradespeople use cargo bikes, car share schemes can be used for trips to tips etc, humans can adapt

Chompingatthebeat · 08/08/2025 15:57

mintydoggyv · 08/08/2025 14:30

Least we forget , 80 per cent of all cyclists by the age of 50 need hip and knee replacement s and cost our NHS billions , then there are around 2000 fatality s of cyclists a year on our roads , thus l am pleased l only one knee and one replacement, then not everyone can ride a bike ,due to old age and disabilities, what we do need is more accountability from cyclist by having a mandatory insurance for all bikes and a cycling license so cyclist eyes and health can be checked

Do you have a link to those stats

Mischance · 08/08/2025 19:31

OakAshRowan · 08/08/2025 09:13

"Cyclists in particular"... Really? So you don't think many drivers also behave dangerously? Even pedestrians can be reckless, crossing roads without looking for example (although they pose much more risk to themselves than anyone else). Lack of consideration is not unique to cyclists.

The "cyclists in particular" in my post referenced the original title of this thread. I have found that horse riders are generally more considerate of other road users than cyclists.

Inconsiderate (not to say crap) drivers are of course two a penny......

Satisfiedwithanapple · 08/08/2025 19:42

RedPony1 · 08/08/2025 11:13

If you cant tell the difference between a car and a tiny bike, i think you're being the arrogant cyclist you claim not to be...

I'm a vulnerable road user, i wouldn't dream of not going above and beyond to be seen.

If you aren’t looking out for cyclists and pedestrians you are a dangerous driver and shouldn’t be on the road .

Satisfiedwithanapple · 08/08/2025 19:47

mintydoggyv · 08/08/2025 14:39

But cyclists cost far more

What utter nonsense

RH1234 · 08/08/2025 19:58

Satisfiedwithanapple · 08/08/2025 19:47

What utter nonsense

@mintydoggyv
I’m sure will come back with all their made up statistics to suit their agenda….

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Eatally · 08/08/2025 23:50

MsTamborineMan · 06/08/2025 20:15

Gosh not 12 hrs a year, however will you cope.

If its 2 miles everytime that's just how long the journey takes. The same as traffic. Sometimes there are other road users on the road that make our journeys slower, that's the nature of public services. The road is no more a "lifeline" to you than any other road is.

You clearly don’t understand living rurally and having no shop, school, doctors etc in our village. The only way to access any services is to drive. The single road through our village truly is a lifeline to the outside World, much more than to people who can walk to a shop or have multiple routes to choose from.

As for the delay caused by cyclists - I do cope, I have to. Doesn’t mean I don’t get frustrated. The OP asked why people might dislike them as a cyclist, and I explained why.

Satisfiedwithanapple · 09/08/2025 09:03

Eatally · 08/08/2025 23:50

You clearly don’t understand living rurally and having no shop, school, doctors etc in our village. The only way to access any services is to drive. The single road through our village truly is a lifeline to the outside World, much more than to people who can walk to a shop or have multiple routes to choose from.

As for the delay caused by cyclists - I do cope, I have to. Doesn’t mean I don’t get frustrated. The OP asked why people might dislike them as a cyclist, and I explained why.

Why do you think you’re more important than them because you’re driving?

They find having to think about cars all the time inconvenient. You are just equal road users.

RH1234 · 09/08/2025 10:24

Eatally · 08/08/2025 23:50

You clearly don’t understand living rurally and having no shop, school, doctors etc in our village. The only way to access any services is to drive. The single road through our village truly is a lifeline to the outside World, much more than to people who can walk to a shop or have multiple routes to choose from.

As for the delay caused by cyclists - I do cope, I have to. Doesn’t mean I don’t get frustrated. The OP asked why people might dislike them as a cyclist, and I explained why.

I live rural, you don’t make any sense.

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