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Why isn't Andrew Tate in prison for hate speech?

26 replies

malificent7 · 11/03/2025 16:38

I have no idea why he is free and by all accounts living ot up. Can anyone elaborate?

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millymollymoomoo · 11/03/2025 16:41

what do you think he’s says that would warrant being locked up for ?

Jabberwok · 11/03/2025 17:09

Tate has some questionable views without doubt. Some of the stuff he says at times is good advice for young men, such if you like a girl but she's not interested then move on. Don't try and persuade her, chase after her all the time. Or the fact he didn't want to go to the gym 75% of the time he was a professional kick boxer, but made himself because you need to do things you don't like to achieve the results you want...then he talks about women being property or a status symbol and that men should have multiple wives but not women. The constant referrals to hoes and the whole attitude to women makes my skin creep.

But what he says isn't hate speech, it's a point of view which any one with half a brain thinks is ridiculous, disgusting and degrading to women.

Despite what the current government wants, we have freedom of speech in the uk. I may absolutely hate what you say, but I will defend your right to say it.

SinnerBoy · 11/03/2025 17:11

What about physically abusing women, as he advocates?

Wildflowers99 · 11/03/2025 17:12

Because ‘hate speech’ in itself isn’t an offence. What event/tweet are you referring to ?

macrowave · 11/03/2025 17:17

Which Romanian hate speech laws has he broken?

JHound · 11/03/2025 17:20

malificent7 · 11/03/2025 16:38

I have no idea why he is free and by all accounts living ot up. Can anyone elaborate?

Because he has not broken any laws.

Potentially in the UK he may have but he definitely won’t have in the USA (where free speech is held in the highest of regard).

And as he is not in the UK its moot.

ExtraOnions · 11/03/2025 17:20

He shouod be in prison for Sex Trafficking and Rape.

Should he somehow be held accountable for what he says ? That would be nice. The scum today who has been imprisoned for life, for the crossbow killings, was watching Tates videos before he murdered his ex, her sister and her mum. Do I think Tate had one morsel of self-awareness, or regret? Or do I think Tate has reflected on the power of world ? Nope .. he doesn’t care. He’s morally bankrupt.

cheezncrackers · 11/03/2025 17:21

Because 'hate speech' isn't a crime! The US has free speech laws. The UK is supposed to as well, although they've been severely eroded thanks to the TRA lobby.

ExtraOnions · 11/03/2025 17:24

cheezncrackers · 11/03/2025 17:21

Because 'hate speech' isn't a crime! The US has free speech laws. The UK is supposed to as well, although they've been severely eroded thanks to the TRA lobby.

Has the US for free speech laws ? They seem to be doing a good job of stopping people protesting about Gaza.

US Free Speech laws, appear to be “as long as what you are saying matches with the view of the current government”

Free speech has never meant “free of consequence” or “free to Libel”

CrumpledInkBlott · 11/03/2025 17:28

Probably that's why Tate and his brother have gone to the USA . They would probably be arrested here .

MissyB1 · 11/03/2025 17:34

Ermm... How about slavery, trafficking and rape? By all accounts he's being investigated for all of those, and the British police would like to speak to him too - or so I heard.

CrumpledInkBlott · 11/03/2025 18:19

MissyB1 · 11/03/2025 17:34

Ermm... How about slavery, trafficking and rape? By all accounts he's being investigated for all of those, and the British police would like to speak to him too - or so I heard.

That's why they have gone to the USA . I wonder who paid for the private jet that took them there .

SinnerBoy · 11/03/2025 18:32

Musk paid for the private jet, of course.

Chuchoter · 11/03/2025 18:36

What crimes has he actually been found guilty of?

I'll wait.

BinWim · 11/03/2025 18:40

Honestly I wouldn't give a single shit if someone Luigi's this disgusting waste of oxygen.

I don't care if people criticise me for saying it, he's a piece of shit and is poisoning the minds of the younger generation of boys.

AngelaMerkin1 · 11/03/2025 18:42

SinnerBoy · 11/03/2025 18:32

Musk paid for the private jet, of course.

They are all detestable men of course but that is fake news.

SpottedDonkey · 11/03/2025 18:45

Tate is a U.K. & US national who was, until very recently, resident in Romania. The Romanian authorities had been investigating him & his brother for several years, they were first arrested in December 22. Tate has been charged with serious criminal offences including rape & human trafficking, never mind saying hurty words on the internet.

None of these charges has yet come to trial, presumably due to either legal delays or lack of evidence.

Last month Tate was allowed to leave Romania (presumably they wanted rid) & travel to the US where the current political climate isn’t exactly hostile to him. I wouldn’t bet on him being locked up any time soon, or ever leaving the US again.

Naunet · 11/03/2025 18:49

Jabberwok · 11/03/2025 17:09

Tate has some questionable views without doubt. Some of the stuff he says at times is good advice for young men, such if you like a girl but she's not interested then move on. Don't try and persuade her, chase after her all the time. Or the fact he didn't want to go to the gym 75% of the time he was a professional kick boxer, but made himself because you need to do things you don't like to achieve the results you want...then he talks about women being property or a status symbol and that men should have multiple wives but not women. The constant referrals to hoes and the whole attitude to women makes my skin creep.

But what he says isn't hate speech, it's a point of view which any one with half a brain thinks is ridiculous, disgusting and degrading to women.

Despite what the current government wants, we have freedom of speech in the uk. I may absolutely hate what you say, but I will defend your right to say it.

Really? I've heard him saying how he (and men in general should) break womens, sorry, bitches ribs to teach them to be scared. He's utter scum.

Haveanaiceday · 11/03/2025 18:51

Because noone cares about misogyny and crimes against women are considered less serious.

Maitri108 · 11/03/2025 18:57

malificent7 · 11/03/2025 16:38

I have no idea why he is free and by all accounts living ot up. Can anyone elaborate?

Romania is pretty corrupt and powerful men pulled strings and escorted these imbeciles to the US.

Trump blustered on about protecting women then paid a private plane to escort rapists and misogynists to the States.

In the UK extreme misogyny - sorry, 'hurty words' - is considered terrorism.

PointsSouth · 11/03/2025 19:01

MissyB1 · 11/03/2025 17:34

Ermm... How about slavery, trafficking and rape? By all accounts he's being investigated for all of those, and the British police would like to speak to him too - or so I heard.

...in which case he's free because he hasn't been tried and convicted. But when he is, he'll be locked up.

JoyousEagle · 11/03/2025 19:16

SpottedDonkey · 11/03/2025 18:45

Tate is a U.K. & US national who was, until very recently, resident in Romania. The Romanian authorities had been investigating him & his brother for several years, they were first arrested in December 22. Tate has been charged with serious criminal offences including rape & human trafficking, never mind saying hurty words on the internet.

None of these charges has yet come to trial, presumably due to either legal delays or lack of evidence.

Last month Tate was allowed to leave Romania (presumably they wanted rid) & travel to the US where the current political climate isn’t exactly hostile to him. I wouldn’t bet on him being locked up any time soon, or ever leaving the US again.

They didn't want rid that much, they were pressured into it by Trump. If they wanted rid of him, they'd have extradited him to the UK as was requested a year ago for sexual crimes. Romania agreed to extradite but only after they had had their own trial.

SinnerBoy · 11/03/2025 19:19

AngelaMerkin1 · Today 18:42

They are all detestable men of course but that is fake news.

Is that so? Do you know who did? I read a couple of reports, which said Musk had laid on a plane for them.

cait967 · 11/03/2025 19:21

SinnerBoy · 11/03/2025 19:19

AngelaMerkin1 · Today 18:42

They are all detestable men of course but that is fake news.

Is that so? Do you know who did? I read a couple of reports, which said Musk had laid on a plane for them.

do you have a reputable source for this. I’m no fan of musk but this does not ring true

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