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AIBU?

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For these collective crimes to make me distrust men in general?

17 replies

Bex5490 · 02/09/2024 17:50

Honestly can’t believe what I’m reading. This is so horrific.

Whenever there’s talk of men abusing women some will say something like ‘but some women abuse men too.’

I have never heard of women coming together collectively to plan and then implement abuse.

This shit is an epidemic.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-whose-husband-drugged-dinner-33585206

Man 'drugged wife's dinner then invited more than 50 other men over to rape her'

Some 51 men are accused of raping Gisèle Pélicot, a mother of three, after she was allegedly drugged by her husband at the family home in Mazan, a commune in Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-whose-husband-drugged-dinner-33585206

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Welshfiver · 02/09/2024 17:53

Yeah I was horrified reading that today. I know people say 'not all men' and they are right, but this guy had no shortage of takers! Makes you wonder what men would do if they thought they'd get away with it.

thebastardsgotme · 02/09/2024 17:54

I have just seen this, I cannot believe how disgusting these men are. She is so brave.

username44416 · 02/09/2024 17:56

Some of his accomplices claimed they had no idea the sex was not consensual while one denied it was rape, saying: "It's his wife, he does what he likes with her."

And they say the patriarchy doesn't exist.

UhHuhHuH · 02/09/2024 18:03

I feel the phrase “this is one of the worst things I’ve read” is over used. In this case its absolutely appropriate.

I wonder if she ever suspected her husband.

Bex5490 · 02/09/2024 18:06

UhHuhHuH · 02/09/2024 18:03

I feel the phrase “this is one of the worst things I’ve read” is over used. In this case its absolutely appropriate.

I wonder if she ever suspected her husband.

Absolutely.

I’m sure he must have been abusive in so many ways she probably thought she was going mad. Or maybe she suspected the drugging but assumed that it was only him who was raping her at night.

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Bex5490 · 02/09/2024 18:10

Welshfiver · 02/09/2024 17:53

Yeah I was horrified reading that today. I know people say 'not all men' and they are right, but this guy had no shortage of takers! Makes you wonder what men would do if they thought they'd get away with it.

And this is exactly the point. It’s defo not all men but why do so many men want to hurt us?

Like the amount of sexual partners who have wanted to just pull your hair a little, a light spanking etc.

And I’m not saying that these men are abusers, just that there is something gratifying about hurting us even in a play acting kind of way. Why is that?

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coxesorangepippin · 02/09/2024 18:11

Yup.

And what is most shocking is that over 90 men went along with this knowingly

username44416 · 02/09/2024 18:12

Bex5490 · 02/09/2024 18:10

And this is exactly the point. It’s defo not all men but why do so many men want to hurt us?

Like the amount of sexual partners who have wanted to just pull your hair a little, a light spanking etc.

And I’m not saying that these men are abusers, just that there is something gratifying about hurting us even in a play acting kind of way. Why is that?

They hate women and want to hurt and humiliate us.

coxesorangepippin · 02/09/2024 18:12

I have so much respect for the woman for choosing to give her name. She waived anonymity.

I absolutely applaud her.

coxesorangepippin · 02/09/2024 18:12

Why is that?

^

Power.

Schnauzersaremyheros · 02/09/2024 18:19

Who the hell has voted YABU??? Oh let me guess, probably a man 🙄

You are definitely not unreasonable OP. And that woman is so brave!

HRTQueen · 02/09/2024 18:23

So many stories about male violence are constantly in the news just today a man murdering his three sons and this poor woman being drugged and raped arranged be her husband

Its too many men that are violent and harm woman and children

that’s the issue we should be concentrating on no one can argue against this

Summerhillsquare · 02/09/2024 19:07

YNBU. I wish you were, I want to look at the men around me without suspicion, but I can't.

The list of jobs the attackers did turned my stomach all over again - trusted and caring professions.

McLeodIsPronouncedMcloud · 02/09/2024 19:17

YANBU

Makes you wonder what men would do if they thought they'd get away with it.

A study in Australia found that 1 in 6 men had sexual feelings for children.
An anonymous study in university found that a third of male students would rape a woman if they knew they’d face no consequences.

There are vanishingly few men who will speak out about this when with their mates or in a male environment, which means that MMALT or at the very least most men are happy with the status quo.

BearFacedCheek · 02/09/2024 19:43

I read about this earlier. It’s so horrific, it’s almost unbelievable. I am in awe of her waiving her right to anonymity and a closed trial. What an absolutely depraved evil bunch of bastards.

Bex5490 · 02/09/2024 20:19

McLeodIsPronouncedMcloud · 02/09/2024 19:17

YANBU

Makes you wonder what men would do if they thought they'd get away with it.

A study in Australia found that 1 in 6 men had sexual feelings for children.
An anonymous study in university found that a third of male students would rape a woman if they knew they’d face no consequences.

There are vanishingly few men who will speak out about this when with their mates or in a male environment, which means that MMALT or at the very least most men are happy with the status quo.

This is so gross but I believe it. You just have to look at the fetishisation of the school uniform.

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UhHuhHuH · 02/09/2024 21:28

Men need to call other men out and shame them. Any time ones of their buddies makes some sort of depraved comment about females, the group should ostracise them for the disgusting beings they are.

The sickening thing is you know its not just this one woman, and the perpetrators have done it before/since.

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