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Give your child a screen and the rest of us peace

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OlympicsFanGirl · 05/08/2024 11:34

Second long train journey this weekend and yet again a whole carriage having to put up with loud, noisy, whining kids.

It's grating and it's constant and there are hours to go.

Parents just don't seem bothered.

Rest of the carriage now sharing looks, rolling eyes and sighing.

Just give them tablets and headphones and the rest of us some peace and quiet.

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UnfriendMe · 09/08/2024 00:42

Hugmorecats · 07/08/2024 10:46

This kind of judgement and stress is why I’ve given up on taking my autistic child on public transport for any time longer than half an hour. I take tons of entertainment but even so a half hour train journey can be very stressful when you add in waiting on a platform and delays. I don’t mind other people’s loud children, it makes me feel better about the times mine have kicked off.

Other people's loud children might make you feel better about yours but the rest of us shouldn't have to put up with them, esp in the quiet car. If your kids are gonna be dicks then stick them with the rest of the loud children. Many of us are not happy to listen to screaming children for 3 hours and if a kid had been kicking my seat with the parents doing nothing, I would have turned around and told him/her to knock it the fuck off.

jasminocereusbritannicus · 09/08/2024 08:20

YANBU
I can take a lot of “child noise” as I work in a school,but I cannot bear the sort of screaming and yelling and generally making a nuisance of yourself type of child noise that a lot of parents choose to ignore.
I was in the supermarket yesterday, there were two little girls aged about 7 and 8 literally screeching on top of their voices for no apparent reason and not once did the mum ask them to pipe down. On the same visit a boy of about 10 was charging up and down the aisles with one of those kid sized trolleys and doing knee slides with it ; narrowly missed me on two occasions. Again, not a word from the adults.
My faith , however, was restored by a grandmother with her 3 grandchildren , one a boy of about five who was trying to do similar. She stopped him, told him it was unacceptable to do that in a shop, and if he couldn’t push the little trolley sensibly she would put it back. He actually listened to her.

My 3 children are all grown up now, but I would never let them run about in shops ( or elsewhere, especially confined spaces) and make unnecessary noise. I brought them up to have respect for others and their surroundings. It’s not hard. Sometimes, you have to say “no” to your kids, whether they like it or not.

Hugmorecats · 09/08/2024 11:05

UnfriendMe · 09/08/2024 00:42

Other people's loud children might make you feel better about yours but the rest of us shouldn't have to put up with them, esp in the quiet car. If your kids are gonna be dicks then stick them with the rest of the loud children. Many of us are not happy to listen to screaming children for 3 hours and if a kid had been kicking my seat with the parents doing nothing, I would have turned around and told him/her to knock it the fuck off.

@UnfriendMe I was saying I’ve given up on taking my kids out on the train… the small local services I still do don’t have a quiet coach

comoatoupeira · 09/08/2024 11:22

I think you need to be careful if you find yourself looking for peace and quiet all the time. Once you start you can't stop. Life's not like that. Life is full of life, the unexpected, having to adapt to different circumstances.
Reaching for comfort all the time is not a recipe for happiness, just being a grump.

OlympicsFanGirl · 09/08/2024 12:31

comoatoupeira · 09/08/2024 11:22

I think you need to be careful if you find yourself looking for peace and quiet all the time. Once you start you can't stop. Life's not like that. Life is full of life, the unexpected, having to adapt to different circumstances.
Reaching for comfort all the time is not a recipe for happiness, just being a grump.

If you think I'm seeking perpetual peace and quiet I think you've misunderstood.

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OlympicsFanGirl · 09/08/2024 12:35

@Sienna1987

Regarding inquisitive chatty children when did this become an issue?

It's not an issue at all.

That's how the rest of the children in that carriage were behaving and they weren't bothering anyone in the slightest.

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OlympicsFanGirl · 09/08/2024 12:38

Cath082 · 08/08/2024 17:32

And in that one post I can see you are not a parent!
You would obviously be a perfect parent………until you had children of course (and yes I too am rolling my eyes but this time at you).

I am a parent of two children

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OlympicsFanGirl · 09/08/2024 12:39

RedRoss86 · 08/08/2024 22:02

Ah if they were sitting there for hours on technology you'd still be giving out about bad parenting.

I really wouldn't.

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Goldenbear · 09/08/2024 12:40

Pip789 · 05/08/2024 12:14

I try to engage my child on public transport and bring lots of options but tbh parents are judged for giving their child a screen, for 'performance parenting'/ engaging with their child and it also appears for having a child who repeatedly says 'mummy' (they do that a lot!)...

Children also need to move so expecting them to stay still for hours on end is unreasonable. I would stop mine kicking a seat or impacting on other passengers but i'm not going to expect them to sit perfectly still.

Turn around and tell the child who's kicking your chair to stop.

Edited

isn’t it the parents’ job to tell the child to stop kicking the seat?

OlympicsFanGirl · 09/08/2024 12:42

Julimia · 08/08/2024 19:00

Ooh children being children! Well I never. Sounds like a grown up being a child too. Toleration is the word.

Actually I don't think we should have to tolerate bad behaviour and anti social behaviour especially over a prolonged period of time.

The fault of course lies entirely with the parents for failing to parent and failing to show consideration for all of the other passengers. .

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northernbeee · 09/08/2024 13:51

Children need to learn how to be bored and how to amuse themselves and tablets etc aren't the answer!

OlympicsFanGirl · 09/08/2024 14:10

northernbeee · 09/08/2024 13:51

Children need to learn how to be bored and how to amuse themselves and tablets etc aren't the answer!

On this occasion it turned out that they were the answer.

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Charlottescobweb · 09/08/2024 16:07

Our lives are spent on social media, tablets, computers and phones. We have forgotten how to socialise and tolerate other people. Children can't even play in their own garden without some busybody having an issue about noise. My next door neighbour puts his children on the Xbox to keep them quiet. He doesn't want them making a sound or a mess. It's got to be abuse.

Technonan · 09/08/2024 16:17

I'm with the OP. OK, a lot of parents are good about keeping their kids entertained and making sure they don't behave badly.

But I'm still scarred from a train journey from South Yorkshire to Inverness with a family in the carriage with four children who raced up and down the carriage screaming and spent a lot of the journey kicking the back of our seats and chucking stuff around, while the mother just sat there looking benign.

I've travelled with small children. I know it isn't easy, but I managed to keep mine entertained. Too many parents seem to think they can inflict their children's bad behaviour on everyone else.

To avoid the 'How dare you tell my children not to make your journey a misery' row, I got someone from the on-train team to talk to the mother and it did stop, up to a point, the chair kicking, but I got daggers from the mother for most of the journey. Parent your children. I had to - and so should other parents.

Charlottescobweb · 09/08/2024 17:29

Technonan · 09/08/2024 16:17

I'm with the OP. OK, a lot of parents are good about keeping their kids entertained and making sure they don't behave badly.

But I'm still scarred from a train journey from South Yorkshire to Inverness with a family in the carriage with four children who raced up and down the carriage screaming and spent a lot of the journey kicking the back of our seats and chucking stuff around, while the mother just sat there looking benign.

I've travelled with small children. I know it isn't easy, but I managed to keep mine entertained. Too many parents seem to think they can inflict their children's bad behaviour on everyone else.

To avoid the 'How dare you tell my children not to make your journey a misery' row, I got someone from the on-train team to talk to the mother and it did stop, up to a point, the chair kicking, but I got daggers from the mother for most of the journey. Parent your children. I had to - and so should other parents.

You might as well call it lazy parenting. I would say in the last 10 years or so kids behaviour has got worse because they are always in front of the babysitter (screen). Parents don't know how to interact with their children. I would say a high proportion of men who were arrested at the riots are young 18 year olds. Maybe its just me and what I am seeing you may see something else. There has to be a negative knock on effect. All you can do is feel sorry for the children because they will learn the hard way like those young yobs who rioted.

VilanelleTutu · 09/08/2024 17:40

Books. This is exactly the opportunity to read a nice big book. Which is why readers are so superior to everyone else - perfectly able to entertain ourselves and above all not noisy ☺️

CinnamonJellyBeans · 09/08/2024 19:25

I'd honestly rather listen to the noise from kids whining than see them sedated by screens. It's so depressing to see. Children need to learn to occupy themselves without screens and parents need to learn how to spend three hours in one place with their own offspring. It's really not hard if you care enough about your own kids to make the effort.

Also interesting to see that so many posters are also advocating screens, rather than books.

Devilsmommy · 09/08/2024 19:30

atadtired · 05/08/2024 12:07

Do I have the only child in the world who isn't interested in tv/cartoons? Granted if he was jumping on the seats or shouting loudly we'd be sitting in the vestibule to annoy as few people as possible, but not all kids will actually watch a screen even if you stick them in front of one!

I honestly thought mine was the only one 😂 he won't sit still long enough to read a book to either 😅

MustWeDoThis · 10/08/2024 00:33

OlympicsFanGirl · 05/08/2024 11:34

Second long train journey this weekend and yet again a whole carriage having to put up with loud, noisy, whining kids.

It's grating and it's constant and there are hours to go.

Parents just don't seem bothered.

Rest of the carriage now sharing looks, rolling eyes and sighing.

Just give them tablets and headphones and the rest of us some peace and quiet.

Did you never make noise as a child? What would be your solution if technology didn't exist? What if said parents cannot afford it? What would your own parents have said when you were a "whiny" child?

I do find it ironic that this is a whiny thread, whining about children acting their age.

I think society are slowly becoming sick and tired of snowflakes such as yourself. Suck it up princess and tell someone who cares.

There's kids being stabbed and countries being blown to pieces...yet here you are.

Have an eye-roll for yourself, while you're moaning about it.

S251 · 10/08/2024 11:44

I am one of those patents who don’t give my children screens, and I never will. If a parent wants to do that then that is up to them and I do not judge, however it is not how I parent. You should mind your own business and maybe instead you should be the one to put ear phones in. Sorry to remind you of this but you were also once a child too.

Sleepybeanbump · 12/08/2024 11:59

Oh honestly. Then we give them screens and everyone b*tches about that too!!!!!! It’s literally impossible to win. If you exist in public with a kid (and especially an ND one with high needs or less socially acceptable behaviour or one whose behaviour seems younger than they look) some one will be judging you.

Workaholic99 · 13/08/2024 17:37

Bit unreasonable in my opinion. I frequently forget birthdays and my friends frequently forget mine. I have a busy life just like my friends do. I sure don't hold it against them when they forget it.

Pip789 · 13/08/2024 20:56

Goldenbear · 09/08/2024 12:40

isn’t it the parents’ job to tell the child to stop kicking the seat?

I would stop my child but I'm not all parents! If they're not parenting you can either say something or put up with it...

Allfur · 13/08/2024 21:03

Drunken groups, from teenagers to middle-aged football fans are also annoying to share a carriage with

Theunamedcat · 13/08/2024 21:12

CinnamonJellyBeans · 09/08/2024 19:25

I'd honestly rather listen to the noise from kids whining than see them sedated by screens. It's so depressing to see. Children need to learn to occupy themselves without screens and parents need to learn how to spend three hours in one place with their own offspring. It's really not hard if you care enough about your own kids to make the effort.

Also interesting to see that so many posters are also advocating screens, rather than books.

Books on transport make me hurl I assume the worse and never gave my children reading books on transport they will colour in occasionally but not for long tablets on long journeys are fabulous download favourite episodes from netflix headphones on and relax a bit