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It's an OLD one - Sigma females

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GaslitlikeaVictorianparlour · 21/05/2023 11:55

I've been talking to a man for a couple of days on an online dating site.

The chat's been flowing quite nicely until he wrote "You sound like a bit of a Sigma female. Don't worry though, I can accept that" Apparently, from his chat, he feels he's a bit of hero doing this as most men wouldn't accept a partner with those traits.
There's clearly an element of negging going on so he's going in the bin along with those looking for "a partner in crime" and the guys that want to "mess up my lipstick not my mascara".

However, I'd never heard the term before so I looked it up and it turns out its a woman who's quite independent, who isn't particularly bound by fashion trends or convention and who could take or leave a relationship.
I then fell down a bit of a Greek letter personality rabbit hole and it turns out that sexy, compliant Beta females are very desirable.

Am I being unreasonable to find this all a bit disappointing?

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Clymene · 21/05/2023 11:59

OLD is full of arseholes.

OnlyFannys · 21/05/2023 12:02

At least he is wearing his red flags lovely and bright for you to see them

GaslitlikeaVictorianparlour · 21/05/2023 12:11

I think you're both right. Good job I'm a Sigma and couldn't give a fuck either way 😆

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Eleganz · 21/05/2023 12:15

Red flag.

Any man who starts referring to the Greek alphabet when discussing types of men and women is likely being influenced by the misogynists in the manosphere.

Of course don't tell him that as he may try and hide it for his next victim. Currently it is easy to spot that he is douchebag.

OnlyFannys · 21/05/2023 12:16

Having read a bit more about sigma females I think its depressing but not surprising what you said about many men preferring the beta/compliant type of woman. Its says it all that he said he can "accept" the fact that you are a well rounded, independent woman rather that be impressed by it.

Isheabastard · 21/05/2023 12:23

I agree with @Eleganz my first thought was he’s familiar with all the rabbit holes on the manosphere. Ie. Chads/Stacie, red pill/black pill, incels /femoids.

I could be wrong, but calling you a sigma female (basically an ordinary independent woman) saying ‘he can accept that’, it’s its own massive red flag.

GaslitlikeaVictorianparlour · 21/05/2023 12:30

Isheabastard, I did think it sounded a bit incellular. And to answer your question - I think he is a bastard. Bullet dodged, Matrix style.

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ohfook · 21/05/2023 12:39

Never heard of a sigma female before but I like the sound of it. Where do I sign up?

Truthlikeness · 21/05/2023 12:41

I hadn't heard of it either, but describes me to a T. Guess that's why I'm single!

MistyGreenAndBlue · 21/05/2023 13:33

What is the Greek alphabet letter for loser?

JMSA · 21/05/2023 13:35

Greek for twat?

Sidge · 21/05/2023 13:36

What a twat. My reply would be “why would I be worried? Now fuck off, byeee”.

Luckily my boyfriend (who I found online! There are some decent ones but they take some finding) is attracted to the fact that I am a strong, independent woman who is with him because I want to be, not because I need to be. Which may make me a Sigma female apparently.

Pixiedust1234 · 21/05/2023 13:39

Beta females = good
Sigma female females = bad
What do alpha females signify to him? If he says alpha females are horrifying then tell him you are one but were hiding behind sigma traits 😆

CouldShouldWont · 21/05/2023 13:39

Oh fabulous! I’d love to be a Sigma! If I put it on my soon to be completed dating profile (started 2015) - does it automatically weed out fuckboys and asshats?

HouseIsOnFire · 21/05/2023 13:42

Is there a complete alphabet out there for these people to? What are the epsilons and zetas? 😂

Abhannmor · 21/05/2023 13:43

Sigmas sound cool. It's a minefield out there. A friend was once accused of looking for a 'Beta wallet'.

Perhaps they should bring back Greek and Latin.

LightlySearedontheRealityGrill · 21/05/2023 14:07

These types need a label for everything, so it fits neatly into a little box and that's how they can understand others (thus making the world feel safe for them). Breadth and depth of thought and personality is beyond them. The unlimited and chaotic nature of life is threatening. They are also very controlling because of this deep seated fear. Sad really.

Daisybuttercup12345 · 21/05/2023 19:04

Run for the hills

Christmascracker0 · 21/05/2023 19:05

Unmatch immediately!

HappiestSleeping · 21/05/2023 19:50

WTF happened to "can we go for a beer, spend some time together, and see if we like each other in the real world?"

I shudder at the stories I hear about fellow members of my gender (male). It's not surprising you women think we are all arseholes. Some of us are really letting the side down 🤦‍♂️

GaslitlikeaVictorianparlour · 23/05/2023 21:21

What's a 'Beta wallet'? I have some ideas but they feel either too horrible or not horrible enough.

Happiest I really miss the days when you could just grin gormlessly at each other over a luke warm pint of cider or a 50p vodka. Online dating is a cess pit. Sometime you meet a gem but most of the time its negging and dick picks 🤢

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