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DH doesn't want a vasectomy

223 replies

rollitagain · 11/01/2023 16:19

DH and I have been together for 25 years, 4 children, he is 49.

Recently the topic of him having a vasectomy has come up. I am still having regular periods and only had my last baby 6 months ago (she wasn't exactly planned). I have had the implant but it made me really unwell (fell pregnant after it was taken out), had the coil and that didn't work out for me either, I tried countless contraceptive pills and they all did something negative to my body, from migraines, nausea to mood swings so bad I couldn't deal with me, so it's fair to say, I've done my bit in trying to not have anymore children, so now, it just leaves him to either wear a condom, which he is not prepared to do, or have a vasectomy.

AIBU to want him to have this procedure?

OP posts:
Mummyto2rugrats · 11/01/2023 21:02

Feel your pain, last try was coil for me not only bled every day for 9mth made my mood so low I was suicidal, had the pill prior to kids from age 12 to 30 so feel the same way that why should I mess with my hormones when he can have a simple day procedure.
I would love more kids he doesn't so he should take care of it, he hates condoms so only solution, well no it's not as tbh his other solution virtually no see life and working it round my cycle. Totally depressing for me and lack of intimacy really begining to affect me

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/01/2023 21:03

Why is no sex rolled out as a solution.

Because no condoms, no female contraception, no male contraception equals babies, which they don't want. That leave no sex.

TightFistedWozerk · 11/01/2023 21:05

OP has laid out reasons why the contraceptive options available to her are not suitable. Her husband declines to have a vasectomy or to use condoms. Therefore sex for the OP carries the risk of pregnancy, there is no risk to her husband of pregnancy.

The safest course for OP to prevent another pregnancy therefore is abstinence.

Lockheart · 11/01/2023 21:06

I am going to come at this with the assumption that you both love each other and you'd both like your sex life to continue and neither of you want any more children at this stage.

I would go to a family planning clinic (or just start googling) and get more information about contraceptive options. They are not limited to hormonal (female), barrier (male), or sterilisation (either). There are non-hormonal options you could use such as a diaphragm, cap, or sponge.

It is also worth trying different condoms. Many men wear condoms that are the wrong size and this leads to them feeling uncomfortable. They shouldn't be if they are the right fit. You could try starting here: www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/a46620/condom-sizes/

ConfusedNT · 11/01/2023 21:07

Whilst it is his body his choice he is being incredible selfish refusing to wear condoms. He is forcing you into a position where you either have to suffer the effects of hormonal contraception, which is hard on you, or into a sexless marriage.

And whilst I do believe he shouldn't have surgery if he doesn't want to, I do tend to feel a bit 🙄about men who, if they wanted children, are willing to let their wives or partners go through pregnancy and childbirth with all the associated risks but then decide they are not willing to take a tiny risk to prevent it from happening again. Its all about the good of the family until its him.

He needs to wear condoms at the very minimum

KimberleyClark · 11/01/2023 21:08

lemonsorbetinthesun · 11/01/2023 20:40

Where I live they won’t do female sterilisation for contraceptive reasons. That’s because it’s such a big operation. They will do vasectomies.
so just putting it out there, that it may not be an option for you to be sterilised anyway.

It really isn’t, not any more. It can be done as day surgery under local anaesthetic. And yes I know that vasectomy can be done in a GP surgery, but that still doesn’t mean sterilisation is “major surgery”.

BunchHarman · 11/01/2023 21:09

I can’t believe the selfish cunt is also refusing to wear condoms. What a fucking Prince.

Berlinlover · 11/01/2023 21:10

Two of my exes had vasectomies before they met me, both deeply regretted it.

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/01/2023 21:11

Berlinlover · 11/01/2023 21:10

Two of my exes had vasectomies before they met me, both deeply regretted it.

Well I'm sure OP's main concern is for his happiness with his next partner.

Confused
BunchHarman · 11/01/2023 21:13

HoppingAndHoping · 11/01/2023 20:17

Condom or a vasectomy.

Or no sex*. Simple imo.

*well, at least not PIV. Different sexual practices like (e.g. oral) are obviously still an option if that is something you both like...

If, after I’d borne and birthed four children and felt shit with any kind of hormonal contraception (having tried them all), my husband refused a vasectomy and also refused to wear a condom, there’s no way on god’s green earth I’d be giving him a fucking blow job.

Is he trying to force you into sterilisation?

EasterIsland · 11/01/2023 21:13

Treeeeeeee · 11/01/2023 16:22

Of course you are being unreasonable. You cannot force him to have any operation he doesn't want. If you are certain you don't want more children why don't you get sterilised

Sterilisation for women is a major surgery with significant risks because it generally requires a general anaesthetic and considerably longer recovery time than a vasectomy, which carries far lower risk.

ConfusedNT · 11/01/2023 21:13

Berlinlover · 11/01/2023 21:10

Two of my exes had vasectomies before they met me, both deeply regretted it.

I'm sorry but if I was the OP I would be more concerned that I had had 4 children and had reactions to hormonal contraception than whether any mythical future partner might want kids. They've been married 25 years, I presume she expects to be married a few more.

SaySomethingMan · 11/01/2023 21:14

rollitagain · 11/01/2023 16:42

A vasectomy is easier, even more so going the the non scalpel route, it doesn't require a GA like tubes tied, the recovery is much quicker for a vasectomy and I'm looking after all the kids, plus, call me selfish, but I've had 2 c-sections (first 2 children), I think him having a small procedure isn't asking a lot.

His body, his choice. He's 49, is he planning on having more kids? Don't we have enough?

He might be keeping his options open, should your marriage end up breaking down.

ConfusedNT · 11/01/2023 21:16

The thing is even if the OP is sterilised she still runs the risk of an ectopic pregnancy

So she had the riskier surgery, and then still has a risk of something medically going wrong at a future point.

With a vasectomy that risk is gone

Or, you know, he could at least stick a condom on

HoppingAndHoping · 11/01/2023 21:18

BunchHarman · 11/01/2023 21:13

If, after I’d borne and birthed four children and felt shit with any kind of hormonal contraception (having tried them all), my husband refused a vasectomy and also refused to wear a condom, there’s no way on god’s green earth I’d be giving him a fucking blow job.

Is he trying to force you into sterilisation?

I agree.

But the issue with "no sex at all" is that OP may actually still want to have sex...
And him going down on her (or mutual oral sex etc) may be a way to deal with that.

Hobbitfeet32 · 11/01/2023 21:18

Yes I’m aware of how biology works @MrsTerryPratchett . What I mean is that the no sex as a solution seems to be said as a way to punish the man but actually means the woman is also missing out.
Marriage and relationships involve compromise. It is reasonable to expect your husband to undergo a small procedure to enable you to have safe sex in a marriage especially after you the woman’s body has undertaken pregnancies and the previous responsibility for contraception.
Going by the ‘no sex’ as a solution I suggest it’s no sex for him. OP has the right to choose not to be in a sexless marriage and to leave and find a relationship where she can enjoy sex without the risk of pregnancy.

DottyLittleRainbow · 11/01/2023 21:19

ThursdayLastWeek · 11/01/2023 16:22

Well he doesn’t have to, it’s his body after all.

But I imagine he won’t be having sex either. It’s your body after all.

This.

FurAndFeathers · 11/01/2023 21:20

KimberleyClark · 11/01/2023 21:08

It really isn’t, not any more. It can be done as day surgery under local anaesthetic. And yes I know that vasectomy can be done in a GP surgery, but that still doesn’t mean sterilisation is “major surgery”.

Entering the abdominal cavity carries greater risk than a superficial perineal surgery. It also involves dissection through several muscle layers incurring more pain and side effects.

if infection or moderate-significant haemorrhage occurs, the risks and consequences are dramatically different

ConfusedNT · 11/01/2023 21:21

SaySomethingMan · 11/01/2023 21:14

He might be keeping his options open, should your marriage end up breaking down.

He's nearly 50 with 4 kids. Maybe it's time for him to consider his current families needs rather than a fantastic new family.

TheHauntedPencilCase · 11/01/2023 21:21

We have had the same argument. I refused sex without a condom and that's what we now do. I would prefer the vasectomy but it's not my body.

eatdrinkandbemerry · 11/01/2023 21:22

I had a surprise baby age 41 after 2 planned children and a huge age gap. Other half kept putting of having the snip so I made sure I was sterilised 🤷‍♀️.
Tell him our sex life has really improved now I know I'm not having anymore surprises lol ,you never know it might give him a nudge 🤣

FurAndFeathers · 11/01/2023 21:23

Berlinlover · 11/01/2023 21:10

Two of my exes had vasectomies before they met me, both deeply regretted it.

So you’re suggesting that OP should prioritise her husband’s preferences for his potential future partner @Berlinlover ?

Oddly enough I doubt that priority is high on her list 🙄

rwalker · 11/01/2023 21:23

Bestcatmum · 11/01/2023 16:30

Don't have sex with him until he sorts something out. You don't have to have sex if you don't want to. Vasectomy auses nil symptoms. Sterilisation op can cause a horrible early menopause. It happened to me then my husband left because I turned into Godzilla.

Having had a vasectomy that had problems I can 100% assure you you are very wrong

ended up with massive infection re stitched
pain months later which would stop me in my tracks
at one point they wanted to remove a testicle. Had to have another surgery still get pain now 13 years later
about 1 in 10 have problems
worst decisions of my life wish I’d never had it done

IneedanewTV · 11/01/2023 21:24

I had this exact situation. I had been on the pill from 18, two c sections later we felt out family was complete. My ex h refused to have a vasectomy. No discussion he just refused. I was not going to be sterilised and go through an early menopause. Also I did feel I had done enough and it was time that the bloody man stepped up. So we stopped having sex as he didn’t like condoms. As you can see he is now my ex. And has gone on to have a baby with the OW 😂. Tried to tell me it was a surprise baby 😂

FurAndFeathers · 11/01/2023 21:25

rwalker · 11/01/2023 21:23

Having had a vasectomy that had problems I can 100% assure you you are very wrong

ended up with massive infection re stitched
pain months later which would stop me in my tracks
at one point they wanted to remove a testicle. Had to have another surgery still get pain now 13 years later
about 1 in 10 have problems
worst decisions of my life wish I’d never had it done

That sounds awful.

now imagine that was your abdominal cavity.
you’d be dead from peritonitis.

that’s the risk for women

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