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cost of living - elderly causing themselves injuries to stay on hospital? :(

62 replies

lifeofalawyer · 19/10/2022 00:12

Saw someone ask today on twitter and it got me thinking, AIBU to think we will see an increase in the elderly complaining more about certain issues or even causing themselves small injuries to guarantee themselves a hospital bed and warm food? So sad to think about.

OP posts:
MarmiteCoriander · 19/10/2022 00:17

Absolutely not!!!

IMO- 99% of any elderly patients I have known/treated are wanting to move back to their own home ASAP! They don't want to be in hospital. Many fear being moved to a care home and despite the cost of food/bills- I cannot believe ANY would choose to stay in hospital to cut costs!!!

Jenn3112 · 19/10/2022 00:18

Pensioners are really the only group that is currently going to be well provided for so I doubt it. Bed blocking as there is no social care, absolutely.

Yoloohno · 19/10/2022 00:21

Fgs I’ve seen a 90 plus person taken back home at 4am still visibly unwell. Hospitals do not tolerate anybody who is not seriously unwell in hospital and push for the speediest discharge.

HighlandPony · 19/10/2022 00:21

None of my clients want to be in hospital. I’ve seen them sit in chairs and soil themselves so nobody sees they can’t move to go to the toilet properly.

Will get slated for this but older folk aren’t like todays - I cut my finger on a fishing hook and need to go to a&e

DenholmElliot1 · 19/10/2022 00:29

No they won't - they would rather be at home.

And I agree the elderly are amonst the most well off in our society. They also get additional help towards heating bills.

lifeofalawyer · 19/10/2022 00:54

I suppose that kind of is good then, like one of the posters have said, seems to be our generation that are more likely to pull something like that then :(

OP posts:
FixTheBeak · 19/10/2022 00:59

Do you have any use how hard it is to be admitted in the first place OP?

The oldies would be better off going on a crime spree to get a cosy prison bed…. Bet that’s easier despite the parlous state of our justice system

ilovesooty · 19/10/2022 01:19

FixTheBeak · 19/10/2022 00:59

Do you have any use how hard it is to be admitted in the first place OP?

The oldies would be better off going on a crime spree to get a cosy prison bed…. Bet that’s easier despite the parlous state of our justice system

There speaks someone who's probably never been inside a prison.

Ivyonafence · 19/10/2022 01:54

This is fear mongering nonsense.

There are enough real problems to be posting about, no need to make them up.

FixTheBeak · 19/10/2022 04:28

ilovesooty · 19/10/2022 01:19

There speaks someone who's probably never been inside a prison.

A ludicrous thread deserves a ludicrous answer

BlancmanegeBunny · 19/10/2022 04:34

Bonkers!!!

I've been in A&E with my 80 year old dad since 2pm on Monday, it took 16 hours to see a doctor who then referred him to anorher team who took another 9 hours to see him....... He got lucky tonight, finally got a bed after 34 hours sitting in a wheelchair being mived from waiting room to triage and back again.

I can't see many people wanting to willing choose to do that!!!!

Elleherd · 19/10/2022 05:12

lifeofalawyer · 19/10/2022 00:54

I suppose that kind of is good then, like one of the posters have said, seems to be our generation that are more likely to pull something like that then :(

Why on earth would you start suggesting that people who generally value and
fight for their independence, would start abusing systems?

RegardingMary · 19/10/2022 05:28

People of all types abuse the NHS. But I don't think the cost of living crisis will affect the elderly as badly as other groups, certainly a lot of my patients talk about how badly done to they think the younger generation are, and feel that the extra grants etc will see them through (as rightly it should).

Bed blocking with the elderly is taking place because there's not enough capacity in social care. We've an increasingly frail population who have complex care needs.

StridTheKiller · 19/10/2022 05:46

All the OAP's i know or come into contact with are utterly terrified of hospital stays and will avoid them at all cost. Hospital superbugs, end of life pathway, abuse and neglect, Covid...

oakleaffy · 19/10/2022 05:54

RegardingMary · 19/10/2022 05:28

People of all types abuse the NHS. But I don't think the cost of living crisis will affect the elderly as badly as other groups, certainly a lot of my patients talk about how badly done to they think the younger generation are, and feel that the extra grants etc will see them through (as rightly it should).

Bed blocking with the elderly is taking place because there's not enough capacity in social care. We've an increasingly frail population who have complex care needs.

It is going to be a complete nightmare when the Baby Boomers start getting really in need of care-
Terrifying.
Where will be the care for them in this shitshow ?

Tubs11 · 19/10/2022 05:55

You are beyond unreasonable to think that for all the reasons PP have mentioned and I hope you're not openly suggesting that in public. Oh, and don't get me started on Twitter 🙄

Heavenknows22 · 19/10/2022 06:08

I’m sure they can’t wait to get back to their own homes.

AgentJohnson · 19/10/2022 06:15

How does this speculative BS help!!!!!! This is what happens when people treat social media as a genuine news source.

echt · 19/10/2022 06:25

lifeofalawyer · 19/10/2022 00:12

Saw someone ask today on twitter and it got me thinking, AIBU to think we will see an increase in the elderly complaining more about certain issues or even causing themselves small injuries to guarantee themselves a hospital bed and warm food? So sad to think about.

So you make yourself sad about a non-existent problem.?

Stop shit-stirring about the elderly. What disgraceful thread. I hope it gets closed down.

ScotsWhaHae77 · 19/10/2022 06:30

I think you have too high an expectation of hospitals. You would get 26 hours on a trolley in a corridor and a sandwich if you're lucky. I don't think anyone will be purposely injuring themselves to experience hospital admission.

notonyourbelly · 19/10/2022 06:43

Yoloohno · 19/10/2022 00:21

Fgs I’ve seen a 90 plus person taken back home at 4am still visibly unwell. Hospitals do not tolerate anybody who is not seriously unwell in hospital and push for the speediest discharge.

Must be area or hospital dependant then. I've been in hospital 3/4 times in the last couple of years and they take forever with ward rounds for the doctor to confirm you can go home, and then the discharge papers have to be done. Often told I can ' go home' that day but loads of faffing until that bloody evening!

Miffee · 19/10/2022 06:48

notonyourbelly · 19/10/2022 06:43

Must be area or hospital dependant then. I've been in hospital 3/4 times in the last couple of years and they take forever with ward rounds for the doctor to confirm you can go home, and then the discharge papers have to be done. Often told I can ' go home' that day but loads of faffing until that bloody evening!

Bizarrely both things are true. They are desperate to get you out but often it requires a medic to do TTOs/paperwork which then holds things up because they are under pressure due to how chokka it is. It's a spiral.

Aposterhasnoname · 19/10/2022 06:57

Absolutely ridiculous, my neighbour refused point blank to move out of his house to live with his son because he wanted independence. He was 92, there was no heating, and no kitchen to speak of. The idea that he would have voluntarily gone into hospital is laughable.

londonrach · 19/10/2022 07:01

My job means I see elderly every day ....they do anything to avoid hospital!

HollyJollypup · 19/10/2022 07:06

Every elderly person I know absolutely hates hospitals! If they go in then most don’t come back out!

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