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Conservative party chairman says tax cut critics are like Remainers and don't believe in Britain

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cakeorwine · 27/09/2022 07:50

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1674629/Liz-Truss-critics-Brexit-growth-tax-cuts-Tory-chairman-Jake-Berry-update

"The people attacking Liz Truss’s tax cutting vision are the same as the Remainers who attacked Brexit and “do not believe in Britain”, new Conservative chairman Jake Berry has told Express.co.uk. In his first interview since being appointed by Ms Truss to lead the party to victory in the next election, Mr Berry hailed the new Government as a “fresh start for a new era” in British history but warned his party is “in the battle of their lives.”."

AIBU to think that being someone who opposed Brexit can still mean that I do believe in Britain and want it to be a better place than it is - and second, opposing tax cuts for rich people can still mean that I believe in Britain and think that we can do better without giving rich people even more money?

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Numbat2022 · 27/09/2022 07:51

Well, look how well Brexit is going. That should tell you everything about his opinion.

VillanellesCoat · 27/09/2022 07:53

Was just going to say what @Numbat2022 has!
Given the way Brexit is going, maybe the remainers are on to something.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 27/09/2022 07:55

Meh, it's an old trick. Criticise government policy and you're accused of not being patriotic enough.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 27/09/2022 07:56

It's always heartening to see politicians having such a wonderful grasp of current affairs.

basilmint · 27/09/2022 07:57

So he is saying you are only a true patriotic Brit if you want the wealthy to become even wealthier while the rest of us plebs doff our caps to them from the gutter? He must be pals with JRM.

Simonjt · 27/09/2022 07:57

Well, he is right that this is definitely a new era…

MaChienEstUnDick · 27/09/2022 07:59

What, so making the rich richer is... patriotic now?

FFS.

In related news, this flag-banging rhetoric is basically wrapping Scottish independence up in a naice paperchase bow and sticking it under the Christmas tree. I voted for the union last time and my underlying convictions haven't changed, but omg it's making life very, very difficult. Imagine trying to advocate that we're better together with this shitstorm going on in the background.

ivykaty44 · 27/09/2022 08:02

Well, look how well Brexit is going. That should tell you everything about his opinion.

^

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 27/09/2022 08:03

You’re onto a winner here. Brexit and anti Tory!

Meanwhile, in the real,world, British exports to the EU have never been higher. Oh, and there are more French citizens living in London than in any other city except Paris .Pity they are too stupid to know how much better in would be in Brest.

L1ttledrummergirl · 27/09/2022 08:03

If they are pulling out the not patriotic card they know they've fucked up big. That or they are too thick to understand what they've done and too blinkered to see the effects on the people they are supposed to be working for and representing.

cakeorwine · 27/09/2022 08:12

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 27/09/2022 08:03

You’re onto a winner here. Brexit and anti Tory!

Meanwhile, in the real,world, British exports to the EU have never been higher. Oh, and there are more French citizens living in London than in any other city except Paris .Pity they are too stupid to know how much better in would be in Brest.

I just looked up that data

bmmagazine.co.uk/news/uk-exports-to-eu-defy-brexit-challenges-hitting-highest-level-ever/

Businesses in the UK exported a record level of goods to the EU through April driven primarily by increases in machinery and fuels.
“This is down to the UK’s imports of substantial reserves of LNG from countries like Qatar to fill storage sites in continental Europe, driving this uptick, said Jack Sirett, Head of Dealing at Ebury, a financial services firm.
“This unprecedented importing and exporting of fuels is to support Europe through the next Winter given the uncertainty around fuel supplies from Russia because of the ongoing war in the Ukraine,” he explained to City A.M. today.
Sirett added: “Despite the record export figures, the regular business insights survey continues to paint a picture of challenging circumstances for businesses trading internationally, particularly with the EU.
Exporters were four times as likely to change the destination of their goods from the EU to non-EU countries than the other way around and half (50 per cent) of those experiencing difficulties in their exporting “said that the end of the Brexit transition was to blame.”

BUT - that's not the point of this post.

It's about the Conservative party chairman attacking critics saying they are like Remainers.

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Florenz · 27/09/2022 08:19

The Tory party deserve criticism for these tax cuts and the value of the pound. But many of the criticisers criticise everything the Tories do anyway, so it doesn't mean that much now they actually have something significant to criticise them for.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 27/09/2022 08:28

What an utter plonker

the brexit threads on here were full of that sort of bollocks (and I appreciate people felt bollocks was going both ways but I’m talking about this specific bollocks)

lots of ….if you don’t like it leave the country, and also lots of…..if you don’t like it go back to your own country

Questionaboutjoboffer · 27/09/2022 08:34

Jake Berry is just another ERG stooge who has the brain cells of an amoeba and no morals.

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