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AIBU? Is it ok for Men to be present when a girl, who is menstruating, is strip searched?

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Feministwoman · 24/05/2022 02:36

Is it ok for Men to be present when a girl, who is menstruating, is strip searched (according to the Guardian)

(in this instance the child was Black, btw, and yes, same time frame the Met was doing just this to another Black menstruating girl child, except not with male officers)

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/24/girl-tried-to-kill-herself-after-strip-search-by-met-officers-mother-says

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MrsTerryPratchett · 24/05/2022 02:44

And in this case the girl, "was autistic, had learning difficulties and had been self-harming".

Aubriella · 24/05/2022 02:47

Disgusting. That poor girl. Sad

DropYourSword · 24/05/2022 02:55

I don't think it's ever appropriate for men to be present when any female is strip searched. Race, religion, colour, age, menstruation or anything else shouldn't even figure in the equation.

Andromachehadabadday · 24/05/2022 02:55

I don’t think it’s right for any child to be strip searched without their guardian there and then only in extreme circumstances.

Men should never be present when a girl is being strip searched. Ever.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/05/2022 03:07

DropYourSword · 24/05/2022 02:55

I don't think it's ever appropriate for men to be present when any female is strip searched. Race, religion, colour, age, menstruation or anything else shouldn't even figure in the equation.

Race is important because if you read the article, race features in who is getting searched.

Feministwoman · 24/05/2022 03:13

Arrggh I thought I'd added a title, and enabled voting.
Bloody app.

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Feministwoman · 24/05/2022 03:15

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/05/2022 02:44

And in this case the girl, "was autistic, had learning difficulties and had been self-harming".

I know. Disgusting 😡

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DropYourSword · 24/05/2022 03:15

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/05/2022 03:07

Race is important because if you read the article, race features in who is getting searched.

I understand that.
That's not what I was saying. I didn't say it was irrelevant to this story. However, regardless of a females race, there should not be a man present if she is strip searched.
The absolute racism and disparity of black women being strip searched is another, entirely relevant and wholly despicable, discussion.

Feministwoman · 24/05/2022 03:16

DropYourSword · 24/05/2022 02:55

I don't think it's ever appropriate for men to be present when any female is strip searched. Race, religion, colour, age, menstruation or anything else shouldn't even figure in the equation.

Yes. This.
Single Sex all the way

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Feministwoman · 24/05/2022 03:27

And yes, of course, NO Girl or Woman should be stripped searched.

Regardless of race, religion, sexuality, or any other protected characteristic.

Or just common human decency, regardless of legal protection, maybe?

But, this is particularly dreadful 😢😡

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PurpleDaisies · 24/05/2022 03:35

This is awful, I wonder if you could get your title edited to say what it’s about so more posters might read the thread.

I never thought that in Britain today there would be so much reason to doubt that the police can be trusted to behave fairly and honourably. It is truly worrying.

Feministwoman · 24/05/2022 03:45

PurpleDaisies · 24/05/2022 03:35

This is awful, I wonder if you could get your title edited to say what it’s about so more posters might read the thread.

I never thought that in Britain today there would be so much reason to doubt that the police can be trusted to behave fairly and honourably. It is truly worrying.

I've reported, to do just that.
I thought I'd done a title and a poll, bit sadly the app didn't work properly
😡

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MrsTerryPratchett · 24/05/2022 03:52

Sorry @DropYourSword I get what you were saying now.

ImBurtMacklin · 24/05/2022 04:44

Feministwoman · 24/05/2022 03:27

And yes, of course, NO Girl or Woman should be stripped searched.

Regardless of race, religion, sexuality, or any other protected characteristic.

Or just common human decency, regardless of legal protection, maybe?

But, this is particularly dreadful 😢😡

Should men be strip searched?

PurpleDaisies · 24/05/2022 04:48

This is not a thread about men.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/05/2022 05:39

Should men be strip searched?

Do you respond to every single 'man' with 'what about women'?

No man is an island. Are women islands?

Time and tide wait for no man. Do they wait for women?

Where no man has gone before. Has a woman gone there?

It must be tiresome considering how often JUST men are mentioned.

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