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To call lost final a failure?

55 replies

Turefu · 12/07/2021 13:29

They made final. It's an expetional achievement. They've put up hell a lot of fight. I didn't expect footbal team to reach that far. It's not failure, they've done great.

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NotreallyDA · 12/07/2021 14:31

@CovidCorvid

I thought this was going to be about the tv series Lost….the final episode of that was a total failure!
Same! I was thinking that it was quite the throwback 🤣
AdoptedBumpkin · 12/07/2021 14:34

The last episode of Euro 2020 was very disappointing. I hope they remake the episode, with Marcus Rashford scoring the winner this time. Grin

CovidCorvid · 12/07/2021 14:34

I’m raging about it all over again now!

SummerHouse · 12/07/2021 14:34

"If you can meet with triumph and disaster, and treat those two imposters just the same."

maddening · 12/07/2021 14:34

Well italy could not beat them within 90 mins and extra time Safari, so they are obviously good enough, not just luck.

I think they did excellently, they came 2nd out if the whole of Europe! Stands them in good stead for next year!

whatthejiggeries · 12/07/2021 14:34

It was a brilliant achievement.

ParsleyDill · 12/07/2021 14:38

@AdoptedBumpkin

The last episode of Euro 2020 was very disappointing. I hope they remake the episode, with Marcus Rashford scoring the winner this time. Grin
They could do a 'Bobby Ewing getting out of the shower -- it was all a dream' moment.

Although of course that might mean that the entire season was a hallucination, and in fact England had failed to qualify for the tournament in the first place. Grin

AdoptedBumpkin · 12/07/2021 14:41

@ParsleyDill Believable Smile

Shoxfordian · 12/07/2021 14:43

This is why England doesn’t win stuff, because we’re so happy to even get to a final Hmm

VeganVeal · 12/07/2021 14:44

Yes fail, useless, always the same. They should have gone out in the first round like they usually do and we could have avoided all this crap

Porcupineintherough · 12/07/2021 14:45

Well you know Shox, maybe when we've been in our 5th final and still not won I'll start getting a bit Teed off but for now I'm happy to see this as progress.

MarshaBradyo · 12/07/2021 14:46

Bloody hell people are depressive

Yes fair better to talk about his shit we are, that will help. Maybe let them know… oh hang on

ChaToilLeam · 12/07/2021 14:46

They lost, but did well to get so far. I don’t even like football but think they definitely are worthy of praise.

AlCalavicci · 12/07/2021 14:51

Yes they failed to win but they were not a failure , you dont get that far in any tournament if you are a failure . More to the point I am realy proud of the way ( both ) teams conducted themselves on the pitch with the exception of one shirt pulling and a a risky tackle they all played with respect and good nature .

The fans that broke in on the other hand are absolutely despicable and should be forced to watch the Hillsbourgh disaster and the heart-breaking aftermath .
I know the circumstances are different and due to the lack of fencing at Wembley it could not happen again ( thank god )but there still could of been crushes in other areas

AlCalavicci · 12/07/2021 14:53

@Shoxfordian & @VeganVeal
you two are a barrel of good cheer and laughs aren't you . Sad

Lweji · 12/07/2021 14:57

In the euros and world cup there is one level of winning.
Is that why they also give out silver medals?

A second place in these tournaments feels like a complete loss because the team loses the game, but they also beat all the other teams before.

SmidgenofaPigeon · 12/07/2021 15:00

@Lweji they don’t care about those medals. Most players will take them straight off, just like England did last night after congratulating Italy! They didn’t want to be runners up.

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 12/07/2021 15:05

I wouldn't call it a failure, they did amazingly well to get to the final.

Lweji · 12/07/2021 15:06

[quote SmidgenofaPigeon]@Lweji they don’t care about those medals. Most players will take them straight off, just like England did last night after congratulating Italy! They didn’t want to be runners up.[/quote]
They didn't on the day, of course.
Like I wrote, it feels like a huge loss.

PhillipPhillop · 12/07/2021 15:10

I think in a final after extra time it should be first to score a goal not penalties. After each 10 minutes, change ends, and just keep going until a goal is scored. The guilt of the players who miss the penalties and also the goalkeeper who has let the penalties in must be immense even though it's not really their fault.

SmidgenofaPigeon · 12/07/2021 15:11

@PhillipPhillop that’s exactly what they used to do- golden goal. It wasn’t popular.

Grenlei · 12/07/2021 15:11

The team did far better than expected to even get to a final, it's taken 55 years since the last one.

That said, we had it there for the winning, and we didn't win. Tactics, which Southgate had got right all tournament, were totally wrong last night and as a result Italy won, which tbh was always going to be the outcome once it went to penalties. It's not the penalty takers fault, it's the fact we ended up in a penalty shootout which is always a shit end to a championship.

Roll on the World Cup.

x2boys · 12/07/2021 15:12

They did brilliantly it could have gone either way
Penalties are always harsh, they are a far better team than in the Beckham years.

SmidgenofaPigeon · 12/07/2021 15:12

Not AFTER extra time though- it’s not the hunger games- players can’t keep going indefinitely, they’d drop down dead!

x2boys · 12/07/2021 15:14

@PhillipPhillop

I think in a final after extra time it should be first to score a goal not penalties. After each 10 minutes, change ends, and just keep going until a goal is scored. The guilt of the players who miss the penalties and also the goalkeeper who has let the penalties in must be immense even though it's not really their fault.
How long would you expect them to play on for?