To think I was right to say no

[Metoodear]

My boss rang me and asked if I can work on Sunday as she is desperate and she finds it really hard to get Sunday’s covered

My contracted hours are tues ,weds,Thursday

She has offered me time and a half to work sundays I said nope
She has offered me days in Lou however usually the following tues off and I have declined what I need is to

Use my days in Lou to cover the gaps in my childcare in a few months

The week after Christmas and I need two weeks in September

I feel really bad for saying no but having fandom days off dosent help me as I still have to pay for my childminder and then will take annual leave to fill the gaps and I also been told we are banned from taking any leave at Christmas

Dh pointed out my manger is not sorting the rota proply as everyone else barr me is on a roata so people in theory shouldn’t be able to refuse to work sundays but they are

just to make clear I did refuse but I worked fixed day not shift work

I would do it for double time.

You’re only right to say no if you didn’t want to do it tbh. If you did but said no to teach her a lesson then that seems a bit daft! I never ever do overtime, especially one offs because once tax is taken it’s really not worth it for me. And I don’t care enough about my employer to do them a favour.

(PS it’s lieu rather than Lou!)

Did you try to negotiate for the time off for in lieu that you need? That might work in your favour.
Your dh is right though, the Rota should be sorted out in advance.

If you say you will work any Sundays in these months, give her a list in writing, for days in lieu in September or whatever, might she agree?

Fang2468

Yes I did I explained that having a random day off really isn’t helpful for me as I still have to pay for my minder even though I am off

And would be really mutually beneficial if I worked on the Sunday’s to sort the Christmas issue

She wasn’t haven’t any of it

Most people at work opt for double bubble or the next working day off work so I think she is a bit miffed I won’t do the same

And I already said to her no point offering me money we have about 14 weeks of holiday to cover I only get 15 days holiday a year and a bout of chicken pox could easily eat into that so I need the days in Lou

I think you are ok to politely refuse in that situation then.
Use the old mumsnet line ‘I’m afraid that doesn’t work for me, sorry’.

I worked the Sunday before I went i holiday last week for Christmas Day off

But she still hasn’t done the form if she won’t let me collect my days in Lou then is looking very likey I will have to resign at Christmas

Dh is a nurse so is working he earns 37k I earn 700 per month so his job takes priority and it’s not as if get childcare at Christmas

She shouldn't keep asking. A lot of people can only do fixed hours and can't do overtime.

I think from your update you should talk to ACAS.

If you work in retail it's usual not to be allowed time off over Christmas.
(It's days in lieu not lou)

I don’t work in retail

I would just repeat, whenever she asks, that you would be happy to cover the Sunday if you can take your lieu day (you really don't want a toilet day ), in September, when you need time off.

'Give and take' is just that - it is to help both employer and employee. If she finds it hard to cover Sundays, then she needs to look at what she could do to make it more attractive. At the moment, there is no incentive for you to cover it, f you don't need the money. (Though time and a half, might pay for some childcare when you need it ??)

Days in LIEU (not lou) should suit you not the company. Although many companies have a policy that they must be used within 3 months.

In your situation I wouldn't have done the Sunday.

YANBU to refuse to work a non-contracted day if it doesn’t suit you

I hardly ever do overtime. I have struggled a lot with my mental health and have found working an extra day takes it out of me too much and it’s not really worth it.

SINBU to ask and try to come to a mutually beneficial solution but SIBU to keep pushing when you’ve said no and told her what would make it worth your while which she isn’t prepared to agree to.

Other staff who are contracted to work any day of the week but are refusing to do so need to be managed better! But that’s absolutely not your problem!

@backforgood

It’s not the money my childmider is closed the second week of Christmas and dh works at Christmas their is no amount of money I could pay some to give up Christmas and childmind

Even if we used a Nursey for the 3 year old I would still neeed to find somewhere for the 5 year old

@Glumglowworm

Thanks I have already said to my manager and my supervisor their is no money they could pay me to work no contracted days but I would be willing for days in Leui

That extra cash dosent help because my childmider closed at certain times during the year and like nurseys if you don’t give advance warning you still have to pay for your place

No one can be forced to work on a religious holiday if they are of that religion. That's why some people can stipulate Sundays off. Not that I'm saying that's what your co workers are doing necessarily!

If you don't want to do it, don't do it. But if she gets shitty or tries to manage you out because of this, talk to ACAS

I feel sorry for poor Lou

TotHappy

Yes I think a lot of the ladies don’t want to work Sunday’s because of church

LIEU

LIEU it means 'instead of'.

PositiveVibez Sat 11-Aug-18 21:44:09
I feel sorry for poor Lou

No one can be forced to work on a religious holiday if they are of that religion.

That’s not true, employers aren’t obligated to grant time off for religious holidays.

I think it’s just bad management

We also have people who refuse to work with certain clients as well 😕

Sorry, MeTooDear, I didn't really expand - I was just thinking outloud really, if it saved you having to give up your job, then there might be someone (a student for example) who might be glad to do a few days childcare in their holidays.
My dd2 has picked up a few odd days looking after friends dc as sort of 'one offs' in school holidays when parents are at work. she loves it, it gets them out of this very issue, and they bung her some money which she also loves. Win win.
I know you weren't asking, but it is an option maybe if it helps.