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Katy Perry - kisses contestant

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routineplease · 15/03/2018 22:06

Katy Perry leaves American Idol hopeful ‘uncomfortable’ with after giving him his first kiss - Evening Standardapple.news/AEgXhriEERLKRKylM1Iarzg

If a male judge (33) had done this to a female contestant (19) I would find this at the least very unsettling. AIBU to think - why should this be any different for a male contestant?

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hotstepper4 · 16/03/2018 14:28

I agree if this was a man people would be calling it sexual assault

YouWereRight · 16/03/2018 14:32

It was bizarre and wrong of her.

She's embarrassingly desperate for fame, it's almost painful to watch.

Backscratchesforever · 16/03/2018 14:34

I can believe it, she is a mess, so full of herself to force herself on this lad. To completely ignore his belief that a first kiss should be important and with someone special, she should be made accountable for her actions.
Disgusting behaviour

LonginesPrime · 16/03/2018 14:41

Eww, this was horrifying to watch.

It was so arrogant of her 1) to assume everyone has the same values as her - when he said 'I can't kiss a girl if I'm not in a relationship', I took that to mean that's his view and how he chooses to conduct himself, not 'oh, that's not true, of course you can, look!', and 2) to assume she's so universally attractive that she would be doing any random person a favour by kissing them.

I feel so sorry for the guy. And yes, complete double standard between the sexes,

DearMrDilkington · 16/03/2018 14:42

I'd heard about this but didn't realise it was his first kiss and that he didn't consent to it.

She should immediately lose her place on American Idol, the same as a man would if he did it.

Sparklesdontshine · 16/03/2018 14:43

Very creepy

DearMrDilkington · 16/03/2018 14:45

Just watched a video of what happened. What a vile creature Katy Perry is. The poor guy said no and looked around for someone to step in and end the situation.Sad

MarkBorrigan · 16/03/2018 14:46

This is sexual assault. She needs to be held accountable for her actions in the same way a man would be if it was the other way round.

She also needs to fuck off to the otherside of fuck and stop being an annoying whining fame grabber, but that's beside the point.

Tumblrpigeon · 16/03/2018 14:51

That’s not good

MyNameIsNotSteven · 16/03/2018 15:24

I was ready to be outraged but that's a peck. No other touching at all. She's not forcing her tongue down his throat. It's not appropriate - and neither would it be if it was a man doing it to a woman - but neither is it an assault. Boundaries, lady.

sircoconut · 16/03/2018 15:26

I agree with MyNameIsNotSteven.

Lordoftheringsting · 16/03/2018 15:52

Is he really that big a wimp that this would affect him or is he looking for publicity? FFS.

ISeeTheLight · 16/03/2018 15:59

I completely disagree with steven and lordoftheringsting
FFS, it IS assault. It was unwanted and he clearly stated he did NOT want to be kissed.
That's like saying - well it was only a brush, he didn't really grope her breasts Hmm
The age difference makes it even worse. Disgusting behaviour and he is in his rights to press charges.

hairycoo · 16/03/2018 16:26

I just cant get outraged about this. It was a peck on the lips instead of on the cheek. It's not appropriate - and neither would it be if it was a man doing it to a woman - but neither is it an assault. this really.

SmashedMug · 16/03/2018 16:29

I would feel assaulted if a man in his thirties had done this to me as a 19 year old. Why shouldn't a 19 year old man feel the same way?

If it was a fat unattractive none celeb woman, people wouldn't be judging this poor lad.

snash12 · 16/03/2018 16:29

Oh come on, I was also ready to be outraged but that video but nope.

Uniglo18 · 16/03/2018 16:33

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-43358302

Have you heard about the court case Katie Perry is embroiled in with a nun who later died due to the pressure she was under. Katie Perry is an awful, fame hungry individual.

TathitiPete · 16/03/2018 16:43

I have to strongly disagree with you there @Lordof The guy in question actually didn't make a big deal of it at all, he didn't say anything when it happened, remember this was filmed months ago. It's only now that it has aired and people are taking about it that he's been asked his opinion and he's stated it pretty calmly ie " I was uncomfortable with it" not "Katy Perry is literally the devil and this was the worst thing to ever happen to me. Or anyone. Ever. Aaaargh"

hairycoo · 16/03/2018 16:45

Tbf the nuns death isnt the fault of Katie Perry. They sold something that they didnt have the right to sell (and the court found in favour of Katie Perry) whilst being judgy fuckers. So its sad the nun died, but she brought all the pressure on herself.

AngelsSins · 16/03/2018 16:45

And yes, complete double standard between the sexes

What double standard?! Most people are saying it was wrong of her, some will defend her, just like any famous man ever accused of assault or rape gets people jumping to their defence too.

LittleMyLikesSnuffkin · 16/03/2018 16:51

I saw a video on fb of it and was cringing- KP is so arrogant to assume this young guy would feel so honoured to have his first kiss with her.

Felt very sorry for him as he’s forced into a situation on national tv he clearly didn’t want to be in and no one stepped in to help him, and yes, if he’d been a 19 year old girl and one of the male judges had behaved in the exact same way it would be looked at very differently.

MissionItsPossible · 16/03/2018 17:06

Lordoftheringsting
Is he really that big a wimp that this would affect him or is he looking for publicity? FFS.

How is he looking for publicity? The people that filmed and make this show aired it themselves. He didn't run to the papers or do a kiss peck-and-tell Confused

Personally I think it's all blown out of proportion. I also think it's staged. I also think Katy Perry is really annoying, fake and desperate for fame at an embarrassing level. With that said, I watched a video of her on Youtube some months ago of her Superbowl performance and was shocked that I was quite impressed by it and liked it.

Gileswithachainsaw · 16/03/2018 17:12

Definately not ok. Wouldn't be whether it was a man or a woman. No means no.

And wtf is wrong with people when instead if helping they bloody film it instead. Seriously

VladmirsPoutine · 16/03/2018 17:48

I think what she did was wrong but I also think the 'whatabouttery' of it is also wrong.

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