To think we will have class sizes of over 40 children...

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In the next five years?

And as a "bloody immigrant" (british living abroad), that nasty reply pretty much sums up why I will be seeking foreign nationality next year.

So what if classes have 40 kids? It happens in many countries.

I agree but it's nothing to do with immigration, everything to do with the cuts coming to public spending, less money for schools, less teachers

You're probably right, Op. Happened under the last Conservative Government, I remember.

We already do at DD's school, 43 kids in total-2 teachers & 2 TA's though.

My DD is in a year 2/3 class of 33 already....

Yes YABU and catastrophising. There's a lot of it about today!!

Let's wait and see.

Interesting that class sizes at Eton range from 10 to 20...

dds class is 33, doesn't seem an issue tbh

Of course we won't! The Evilbastardtories will have starved them all to death long before school age!

45 in my primary school class. That was in the 1970s in a smallish rural town with 5 primary schools.

Classes of over 20 are a joke for primary students. Even with a teaching assistant how would each child get any attention in a lesson. Secondary maths class, 34 students, one hour, two misbehaving students. What happens?

OP have you reached that view by careful analysis, or are you lashing out because you are disappointed your preferred party didn't win?

I doubt it. The Tories will have eaten all the children within a year or so.

Avg class sizes before & after Labour imposed the 30 limit in KS1 didn't change much.

Fergal I didn't realise only immigrants had school age children. Some uk nationals have more children than is necessary adding to the school crisis too so Don't be a knob!!

When I was a kid under the Tories there were only 23 children in my class. Of course, that was because the school was set up for children of steelworkers, and the steelworks had already been fucked over years before.

There might have been only 23 of us to a class, but there were only ten of each textbook, so we still got that authentic austerity experience as we shared textbooks with our coats on, sitting between the buckets set out to catch the leaks

How many children are ' necessary' though?

I would be glad if they ditched the KS1 class size limit. There's been a massive rise in birth rate in London and the limits mean that children can't get into their nearest school a few streets away and get sent across the borough instead. I'd rather my dc went to a local school even if the class size was bigger.

When I was at primary in the 1970/80s 36 was the norm in my school, and no TAs.

In my area the primary schools are all full to bursting because of immigrants, but not from places forrin' but refugees from London looking for a nice (or maybe naice) place to raise children that's still in commuting distance from the city.

We need more schools, proper schools not free schools, to deal with the problem but I can't see it happening.

DS1 was in a class of 41 when he started school in 1992 (and his LA wouldn't let children into school until the term after their 5th birthday).

I was at Grammar School in the 70s and there were 35 in my class.

We tumbled down the international education rankings under Labour...

A teacher I know is on Facebook banging on about how upset she is that she's going to have to carry on teaching trivial stuff like reading and writing and doing sums. She's cross it's not going back to the good old days under Labour when she could teach them about important things like creativity and expressing their feelings.

I think that might have something to do with the bad rankings...