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to feel quite ragey about this woman's comments on rape - warning, sensitive

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carovioletfizz · 13/12/2013 13:50

thejohnfleming.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/feminist-female-comedians-agree-there-are-different-types-of-rape-in-edinburgh/

The worst part -

At the moment, it’s ludicrous, but that one word covers both someone who is wandering along a road and some person completely unknown to her leaps out – which must be horrendous and terrifying and it’s not about sex, it’s about violence. It’s a very specific form of assault… That is one thing… That is horrendous… But then there’s some twat of a 19-year-old who dolls herself up, covers herself in make-up, goes out, gets shit-faced, gets a guy, gets more shit-faced, takes him back to her place or goes back to his place, takes some items of clothing off, starts playing tonsil hockey, has her nipples twiddled, starts playing the horizontal tango … It’s too fucking late to start complaining. It’s not his fault any more. You can’t go Yes-yes-yes-yes-yes-yes – Oh! – No! – It’s not fair.

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AmberLeaf · 13/12/2013 13:53

It’s not his fault any more

Yes because men are animals unable to control themselves.

YANBU she is a fucking idiot.

AngelsLieToKeepControl · 13/12/2013 13:54

Well I genuinely believe – this won’‘t go down well, but – if you walk into Battersea Dogs Home with your legs covered in prime rump steak, you cannot complain if you get bitten.

Just Shock

AmberLeaf · 13/12/2013 13:55

Attitudes like hers are the reason why it is so hard to secure a rape conviction.

Unless the victim is a 15 yr old virgin or a nun, the onus is on her to prove she didn't cause the man to rape her.

Will it ever change?

happytalk13 · 13/12/2013 13:55

Wow.

manicinsomniac · 13/12/2013 13:56

Wow! That is ... terrible! I'm actually not necessarily sold on the rape is rape thing and think that some kinds are worse than others (I was raped in my house by my ex boyfriend which really isn't something I'd count as horrific in the same way that I would had I been jumped on by a stranger in a dark park for example).

But to actually blame the victim. And coming from a woman herself. And labelled comedy! Just horrendous.

carovioletfizz · 13/12/2013 13:57

Who actually says 'Oh! No!It's not fair' after being raped?

Agree that she is portraying men as animals who cannot control themselves once a certain point of arousal has been reached.

We can't go upsetting the poor men and gasp!leave them feeling frustrated, so we must accept that once you've let him twiddle your nipples, you've signed up for full sex and can't complain if you've changed your mind.

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DorothyParker1 · 13/12/2013 14:05

Oh. My. God. What utterly disgusting women.

FortyDoorsToNowhere · 13/12/2013 14:10

Rape is rape.

A women can't lead a man on, until consent is given a man should keep his penis out of a women body.

LambinsideaDuckinsideaTrout · 13/12/2013 14:12

There was a thread about this before.

Disgusting.

DorothyParker1 · 13/12/2013 14:20

Just looked one of them up. She seems a right charmer. Apparently Sarah Millican should go away and come back when she's funnier and has lost weight Hmm.

AmberSweet · 13/12/2013 14:38

That is beyond vile! It actually made me shudder. Those 'women' are seriously messed up!Shock

picnicbasketcase · 13/12/2013 14:39

AngryAngryAngry
Oh my fucking god.

CaptainHindsight · 13/12/2013 14:40

rage inducing,ignorant and offensive.

They are not feminists.

Callani · 13/12/2013 14:50

Awful women - for some reason, because a lot of male wankers comedians think it's "funny" to make rape jokes, there are now women trying to lower themselves to the same level to stand out.

I actually find it quite sickening.

As a 19 year old, I used to doll myself up to go out, I wore short skirts and high heels and used to drink so that I was past tipsy. I have once gone back to a boy's flat and "played tonsil hockey" and probably quite a bit more and then thought better of it, but guess what? Not raped. Nope.

Not because I did anything better or worse than any other "19 year old twat" but because the guy I was with was NOT a rapist.

TheBigJessie · 13/12/2013 15:57

It is, and has always been, acceptable and reasonable to say yes to outercourse, heavy petting, whatever you want to call it, but not intercourse.

I imagine Copstick is also one of those women who think women are solely responsible for pregnancy, as well...

icepole · 13/12/2013 16:02

Awful. Research shows that women who experience rape by partners tend to be more traumatized for longer than those raped by a stranger.

ProfessorSong · 13/12/2013 16:32

Fucking awful attitude! Xmas Angry When I was a teenager I dolled myself up, met a bloke, got drunk, went back to his flat. Got into some very heavy petting, (there was even some oral sex) and then I said stop I don't want to go any further. And you know how weird it was, he actually stopped! Straight away! Xmas Shock Why? Because he's not a rapist! Fucking stupid article. Xmas Hmm

StealthPolarBear · 13/12/2013 16:36

"AngelsLieToKeepControlFri 13-Dec-13 13:54:40

Well I genuinely believe ? this won??t go down well, but ? if you walk into Battersea Dogs Home with your legs covered in prime rump steak, you cannot complain if you get bitten"

By her logicc, if you speak offensive shite you cannot complain if you get a slap in the face. But I bet she would complain, and quite rightly.

Thisisaghostlyeuphemism · 13/12/2013 16:51

She is ludicrous.

I'd like to ask her how she feels about being the rapists favorite apologist.

Why does she compare men to dogs?

What terrible thing happens to men and their peni(?) if they can't have sex?

If a man agrees to having his nipples tweaked is he agreeing to a fist up the arse?

Where did she learn that women shouldn't have control over their own bodies?

Horrendous.

carovioletfizz · 13/12/2013 17:18

If a man agrees to having his nipples tweaked is he agreeing to a fist up the arse?

This. Totally.

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Thants · 13/12/2013 17:29

Kate Copstick isn't a comedian she is a comedy reviewer. These are jokes they are her genuine opinions.
What's very sad is the comedy community haven't stood up against this for fear of getting bad reviews from her. Disgusting.

Caitlin17 · 13/12/2013 17:40

They are idiots. And deeply insulting to men as well.

Caitlin17 · 13/12/2013 17:42

ProfessorSong exactly. True for me too.

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