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to think DM columnist Peter Lloyd is a twat.

14 replies

PaperPlanez · 11/06/2013 14:28

at all the loaded anti female rhetoric he spews and his poor, disenfranchised men angle.

This week he seems to be suggesting that we, the Sisterhood, need to be more vocally critical of women who cry rape and the light sentencing they receive. Our alleged 'silence' speaks volumes apparantly. Hmm

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Urgh, I find him and his blatant agenda absolutely unbearable.

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JessicaBeatriceFletcher · 11/06/2013 14:42

YANBU. All DM columnists are twats.

But then, sadly, I am inclined to the belief that anyone who chooses to read the DM has something wrong with them or is a twat themselves. So YABU for reading him.

EagleRiderDirk · 11/06/2013 14:53

YABU - you should be thinking all DM columnists are twats and not even questioning it Grin

squeakytoy · 11/06/2013 16:34

I cant find anything to disagree with in his article. I think he is right.

PaperPlanez · 11/06/2013 16:48

I think the accusation that 'The Sisterhood' condones the behaviour of these awful women is abhorrent and totally untrue.

His articles are riddled with anti women sentiment. The one about penis size is ridiculous and as for putting (wholly unnecessary IMO) male circumcision on par with female genital mutilation, give me strength!

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FreudiansSlipper · 11/06/2013 17:05

two different crimes the only connection is the word rape

it is a terrible terrible thing to lie about and can cause a lot of hurt

if someone is mugged/had their car stolen/house burnt down do we assume they are lying because people have been known to do so to claim money through insurance. an investigation may take place but no assumption is made on their character because this has happened. time and time again when a woman is raped she it que is questioned this is apparently because some women do lie about rape - this is utter crap women are far too often not beleived as blame is still placed on women what they were wearing, how much they were flirting/drinking that they did not make it clear that they did not want sex

gordyslovesheep · 11/06/2013 17:14

he's talking bollox - what a suprise

BMW6 · 11/06/2013 18:32

His articles are riddled with anti women sentiment. The one about penis size is ridiculous and as for putting (wholly unnecessary IMO) male circumcision on par with female genital mutilation, give me strength!

Well, I've read that article twice and for the life of me I can't see any references to penis size or FGM!!! Are you sure you read the right article?

FWIW I think he's spot on re the women who falsly accuse of rape for their own ends - I believe any woman who admits a false allegation should get a prison sentence on a par with what a convicted rapist would get.

SugarandSpice126 · 11/06/2013 18:49

BMW6 I think that poster was referring to his other articles, as they said

SugarandSpice126 · 11/06/2013 18:49

And I do not believe lying about rape deserves the same prison sentences as rapists

Darkesteyes · 11/06/2013 20:53

In this months Glamour there is a brilliant article on rape apologism.

Here are the figures from said article. Over a period when there were 5,651 prosecutions for rape there were 35 prosecutions for making false accusations of rape.
In other words leaving aside all the rapes that are never reported an estimated 89% of them,even leaving aside the rapes for which there is insufficient proof the number of convicted rapists absolutely dwarfs the number of women making untrue claims. For every one woman who "cries rape" 161 men have been convicted of rape in a court of law and a further 1,302 men have committed a rape for which they will never be punished.
This is from the Glamour article but the figures are from Keir Starmer the DPP.

Darkesteyes · 11/06/2013 20:56

Methinks Lloyd has heard about the article Zoe Williams wrote for Glamour and has written his inaccurate guff in retaliation.

samandi · 12/06/2013 09:18

The fake sentiment for female rape victims is rather repulsive.

And linking this crime to the "gender sentencing gap" is utterly ludicrous. At no stage does he attempt to back up this claim. Oh yes, he says something about one man who was imprisoned using Facebook. He doesn't mention the thousands of violent male criminals who are given community sentences, some of whom receive multiple community sentences before being jailed. He doesn't mention that a higher proportion of women are in jail for non-violent offences than men. He doesn't offer any credible argument whatsoever. It's tripe.

samandi · 12/06/2013 09:23

I'm not sure why the oral cancer article is in the "Femail" section either. Confused Surely it should be in the "Hemail" section?

OrangeFireandGoldashes · 12/06/2013 09:25

YABU for reading the DM in the first place. Xenophobic hate-mongering sexist trash rag.

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