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to think you aren't allowed to advertise this?

24 replies

Softlysoftly · 09/05/2013 08:00

You aren't are you? Only special circumstances?

www.whatsoncardiff.net/show-ad/21/female-staff-required-for-a-busy-takeway-in-cardiff/cardiff/broadway/jobs/

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ElBombero · 09/05/2013 08:02

Nope pretty sure it's not allowed. I'm no expert though...

Tee2072 · 09/05/2013 08:08

Only if there's some reason a man couldn't do the job.

LadyStark · 09/05/2013 08:09

Definitely not, can't imagine any circumstances where a take away in Cardiff could obtain permission for an exclusion.

Softlysoftly · 09/05/2013 08:15

That's what I thought! Saw it on my Twitter feed think I may msg them.

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Softlysoftly · 09/05/2013 08:56

They've changed it and apologised. I made an actual difference wow.

Bet they still hire a woman though Hmm

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theodorakisses · 09/05/2013 10:16

it's common in many places to state the nationality or gender in job and accomodation ads. In fact, looking through the Gulf Times, every ad states male or female and nationality, ie male Sri Lankan needed for accounts office. Maybe they have not been in the Uk long. It doesn't make me clutch my pearls, non issue really.

Tee2072 · 09/05/2013 10:23

It's not a non-issue, it's illegal.

TigerSwallowTail · 09/05/2013 10:25

The advert seems fine to me, what did it say before it was changed?

Tee2072 · 09/05/2013 12:46

It said 'female staff wanted' tiger rather than just 'staff'.

StealthOfficialCrispTester · 09/05/2013 12:49

Still does on page title. Bt thats no accident

Tee2072 · 09/05/2013 12:58

You mean the URL, Stealth? I doubt they can change that.

StealthOfficialCrispTester · 09/05/2013 13:01

They can and should - but I agree it's more of a pain

mintyneb · 09/05/2013 13:10

I saw a job last week looking for females. Oh and they had to be well behaved as well :-(

yaimee · 09/05/2013 13:11

Yanbu but just out of interest, what do places like Hooters do? Are they exempt? And if so then why them and not a take away? Both are food service places, what's the difference?

yaimee · 09/05/2013 13:11

what the hell was the job minty Shock

StealthOfficialCrispTester · 09/05/2013 13:12

Minyy what was that

pinkmagic1 · 09/05/2013 13:13

This sort of thing makes me really mad. I am currently job hunting and have noticed two adds recently, one asking for a polish women to work in an office and another for a house keeper wanting specifically a Pakistani women.

Tee2072 · 09/05/2013 13:15

Stealth I meant the poster probably can't without contacting the site and I doubt the poster will think of it.

yaimee that's a really good question. Have you ever seen an advert for a waitress job there that says 'wanted: women with large breasts'?

mintyneb · 09/05/2013 13:15

Oh that's crap pink.

The advert I saw was for a new coffee shop I think. The text didn't strike me as being written by someone who has English as their first language.

Tee2072 · 09/05/2013 13:17

I just looked, they actually call them 'Hooters Girls' so that might give them an out.

Any employment lawyers about?

mintyneb · 09/05/2013 13:17

Not that that excuses anything, I'm surprised the agency accepted the advert unless it was something they posted themselves on a job site. I'm new to jobhunting so don't know how things are done these days

Birdsgottafly · 09/05/2013 13:29

A special licence is needed for the likes of Hooters and "adult" places, the licence will state the size of premises and the number of staff etc, so they then can advertise a particular gender. All female gyms etc can do the same, I think that it is right that this is still allowed for jobs that don't involve personal care. The clever way of getting round a particular culture, is to ask for "Polish speaking" etc and then just hire the actual Polish, applicant.

yaimee · 09/05/2013 13:37

According to Wikipedia a number of men have successfully sued Hooters for not hiring them as waiters.

Booyhoo · 09/05/2013 13:46

glad they have changed it. i wonder why they specifically thought they needed female staff? Confused

on a side note. does anyone know if it's legal to advertise a flat and specify only over 40's ?

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