selfish to refuse the mmr?

[racheael76]

many children and young adults are not being vaccinated against mmr.i have a young child and worry for the future if everyone had the mmr it would make three diseases history/extint.with people not protecting their loved ones these diseases are making a comeback.people with cancer ,low immune systems due to serious health problems eg transplant patients, and pregnant ladies and newborn babies are at risk.in the future it could be my daughter in law who is pregnant (lets say her mum didnt give her the mmr injection) she caught rubella known as german measles it could cause our grandchild to be stillborn or brain damage or heart defects/loss of hearing/bith defects.so the mmr does effect other people not just the person who is not vaccinated.

if my mum didnt give me the jab when i was younger i would be worried if i was pregnant with the outbreak.i would think she was selfish,thoughtless.if my baby had a problem i would think my mum could have prevented this by giving me the mmr = i wonder how my mum would feel.
on the other side some dont want to risk autism or mercury ,poison injected into their child they love.
what are your views?
is it selfish not to give mmr?

Yes. YABU. Have another

I find it incredible that people are still refusing to vaccinate despite Wakefield being discredited & despite the measles epidemic.

here you go. click here

and, importantly, here

You'll be able to read through and see hundreds of views.

Several long threads on this already and still active.

Small pox.

Measles epidemic.

I think except for health reasons then they should actually be mandatory hides

Excellent. You have resolved the whole debate with one carefully thought through, evidence based, scientifically valid post.

Well done you.

Do you mind popping down to Swansea? I think they may be in need of your wisdom.

Well they wouldn't need help in Swansea if people had vaccinated would they? ;P

stirs shit

I'm just trying to end another thread

YES.

I wouldn't start that thread because it's too easy to change that to ""is it selfish not to vaccinate and risk other children's health because my family is much more important", couldn't you?

YES YES YES
I also developed an auto immune disease after the rubella in the 80's. I still have it and it does affect my daily life.
However despite this l never considered for 1 second NOT getting my 3 DC's immunised with MMR.
All have had it and all are fine. In saying that DD1 had her 2x MMRs and developed mumps in her 1st year at university-so it doesn't give 100% immunity.

This is a flame OP, right?

Many people r genuinely unable to vaccinate their children! Others have been advised not to by drs for various reasons. Vaccine damage is very real in some families and whether or not we agree with their choice we have to try and respect the fact it was made as that was what was best for their children. Posting threads about how selfish or irresponsible they r is not helpful!!!

Do u not think the worry of their kids developing these illnesses is enough for them??? Perhaps research into reasons y they can't??!! Try to understand!!

Shouldn't start school unless vaccinated.
Gavel.
Next.

Notfluffy-I despise views like yours. You have every right to your opinion but your actions have consequences. This is not meant to be a sob story but I think you need to hear it. My brother died in 2005 from measles. He was a TA in a primary school and it was around the time parents were opting for separate vaccines. But there is a long wait between each one. At the time three GPs misdiagnosed as they had never seen a case of measles. By the time we got him to a hospital a week later, he was in intensive care. He was 32. Please consider these diseases as causing death rather than just minor childhood diseases.

It should be mandatory except in cases of diagnosed autoimmune disorders which are proven to contraindicate vaccination. These threads always go mental

We paid to have the measles vaccine before imports were banned.

DS had already had mumps and not likely to ever be pregnant.

They should allow parents the choice of separate vaccines then more people would be vaccinated.

Blissx: I am very sorry about your brother.

Historically, measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, whooping cough were childhood diseases that most children caught and were ill for a week or two.

My baby boom generation had all of them, then we had immunity from them.
Catching the diseases was welcomed as it was far preferable to catch the disease as a child as the symptons were less severe (generally) than having the disease as an adult.

It was just part of our childhood.
I know children died from measles, which is terrible, but were there other factors involved - poor nutrition, poor housing?

I didn't know of anyone who died of measles, but I knew someone who had a severe reaction to whooping cough vaccine and became severely mentally & physically disabled.

As usual there are two sides here to consider.

Is this going to turn into a bunfight about who was most ill with autoimmune disease?

There really should be a bun icon as well as

Yes. If my 4mth old caught a disease which could have been prevented but instead foolish parents didn't do so (the ones who have no research and don't know shit - not the ones who can't have injection etc) I would be fucking fuming!!!!

notfluffy pull your beak in .

I have been inpatient and outpatient in several hospitals and Glasgow and still attend.I am on first name terms with many consultants having been attending so long. When Ds was born my family were told to expect the worse and even had contingency plans in place (unknown at the time to me) for the future care of my DC's.
I know my life expectancy is reduced but hey l could get knocked down by a bus tomorrow.I developed a rare complication that my surgeon and read about and never seen and get asked to go and help with medical students exams (guinea pig!!!)
Despite all this l never for one second did not consider getting MMR for my DC's. There was no family history of autoimmune disease or vaccination reaction and my DH and l made the decision together. My DCx 3 are healthy.
DD1 is due her first DC next week and again l will encourage her to have the MMR. Until the medical powers that be can prove us otherwise l will still support the MMR.

It's not selfish to not choose an optional vaccination.

It's a risk some people choose to take.