Roses are red, we like Becks Blue, Tryers to be Dryers push on through. 2019 will be our Valentine.

[Frouby]

Thread 4 for support, tips, tricks and friendship as we reduce our alcohol intake even more. For anyone who wants to reduce, stop, moderate or even just track their drinking.

Absolutely no judgement, just support. Everyone welcome.

Previous threads somewhere but am rubbish at clicky links.

Old tryers and new dryers, welcome to our thread. The one that starts in February and will see us all hit our goals as we move forwards.

Meaning obviously ‘even those that have AF days can get through shit loads of drink’

FML. I bought an AA book for 20p at a jumble sale today, and was full of good intentions as a result. But as DD has flounced off to her DF's, they have come to nothing.

Flossie. Just huge hugs for you and DD2. I know you have no alternative but to cope, but that doesn't make it any easier for you. I have been flat out busy all day, but my thoughts have kept coming back to you. xx

Longest, how did the dentist go?

NC4, I was interested to read about your DS2's health anxiety. My DS is absolutely terrified about puking (specifically), but health in general. He thought he was going to puke a couple of months ago. He had a major panic attack as a result. I will be interested to hear how you find the second hypno session.

@Lotuslots Please, please stay with us. We look after one another very well. I am relatively rubbish at not drinking (compared to others on this thread), but everyone is absolutely lovely.

Thisnamechanger, could you remind me which app you are using, please? ATM, 12 hours would feel like a triumph, never mind 12 days. I'm sorry that you relapsed on Saturday. We have all been there.

I thought earlier that if Article 50 is revoked, I will never drink again in honour of the event. I won't say any more about Brexit, though.

Frouby, I have said it before, but you really should write a blog. 28 units sounds quite reasonable for a week's intake.

I am exhausted, and am having a bottle of a glass of therapeutic wine.

It was properly distressing Dion. I wasn't there because DH took her but they were running nearly 2 hours late and she was beside herself. They injected her with sedatives and she cried till she fell asleep, and then she needed to have a tooth taken out because there was an abscess. She's more or less ok now but I feel very tearful. Also don't know how I have got this all so wrong. I brush her teeth and take her to the dentist. I thought thst was enough.

Didn't sleep last night stressing about Brexit and the climate. Crisis training and dentist trauma has not helped the situation.

Welcome Lotus and hello again Namechanger. Don't give up. We can do this.

I know what you mean about AF days Leaving. I think there is that danger with dry Jan. I have proven I can go without so I don't need to worry about the levels creeping up again.

Frouby, gah re DD! That sounds like how DH would shop.

Will the AA book make a good coaster though Dion? Am sure it will.

leaving my chinese proverb is 'she who drinks gin is slim, she who sups Carling with the boys has fat fanny'.

lotus please stay, we are a friendly bunch specially when we are pissed unless you are swampy. It's hard to admit to anyone, even ourselves, that we might have an issue with alcohol.

I would be happy with 20 units I think. As long as they are gin units not lager. Which would probably be consistently 3 nights AF. Bizarrely I could probably be AF easier on a Saturday night than any other. Dh doesn't tend to drink Saturday so may join him with soft drinks on a Saturday.

Welcome lotus
Not dry here again, so much for DP wanting to be AF to lose weight.
I'm stressed about Brexit. Apart from that I have no excuse for drinking as DS still intact on Day 3 of ski trip, DD is being lovely, DP is being faithful and my hyperthyroidism seems to be improving even if I'm still running more slowly.

Anglaise, that's great about the hyperthyroidism. I know what you mean about there being absolutely no excuse for drinking, though. Your DP jolly well ought to be faithful, because he is so very lucky to have you.

Frouby, I dunno about the book's coaster potential, but it is making a very good liner for my handbag. If I get run over by a bus, I'll be outed as a member of AA.

Longest, poor you and DD. You haven't done anything wrong. Some time ago, my DC's dentist told me that teeth are largely a matter of genetics. So you could have a child who ate endless sweets and never, ever brushed their teeth, and they would get away without a single filling. You could equally have a child who only ever ate broccoli, brushed, flossed, etc, etc, and they would still have rotten teeth. I have a hundred million fillings, and I had always thought it was because my dad fed me sweets. But when I look at my DC and their uselessness about tooth-brushing, I think the dentist is probably right and it's just the genetic lottery. Hugs to you, though.

It’s definitely genetic. I deserve to have loads of cavities but I don’t have any fillings at all. Granted I only have 24 teeth but that’s because I’ve got a tiny gob so they had to make room.

Second hypno was good. We went to some dark places but then we did some emotional freedom technique which felt a bit mumbo jumbo but it’s worked a bit.

Dion your DS has autism too, doesn’t he? My DSs health anxiety stems from being a toddler. Full blown panic sets in, making everything worse.

Re getting hit by a bus, it doesn’t matter what’s in your handbag so long as your bra and knickers vaguely match, so I wouldn’t worry about the AA book.

Hahahahahahhaa, NC4. I would love to say my bra and knickers match, but I am so small up top that there is no bra small enough to fit me.

I did tell DD (36F - how? why? Didn't anyone tell her that it's nice to share?) the other day that she needed to wear something in bed in case the house caught fire, though.

My DS does indeed have autism. This makes the health thing worse.

I also have relatively few teeth, but the ones I have are all filled. Crap genetics.

My teeth are rubbish too. As much as it is genetics I do think that it was pot luck what dentist you had as a child and young person.

I went to the same dentist from being 9ish to 21. Absolutely loads of fillings, root canal at 14 under my front teeth, a big molar removed as the filling kept failing, teeth pulled to make room yada yada yada.

I then moved away for a few years, the couldn't get an nhs dentist. When I finally did at 28, so no dentist for 8 years plus a pregnancy and bfing I was sure it was going to be loads of work. Nothing except a scale and polish.

Am now 41 and any problems I have had have been due to old fillings or old work failing. Even managed to wangle veneers replaced under the NHS as I think current dentist felt sorry for me, as I don't think I should have had root canals at 14, leading to veneers at 18 due to discolouration because of the canals.

Old childhood dentist was on the telly a few years ago on a panorama programme highlighting dentists doing unnecessary work for cash from nhs back in the day.

Wow. I go awol for a few hours and you’ve had a bloody party

Frouby - uniform shopping is enough to make anyone drink!! Jeeeeez..my pet hate!!

Longest - the dental situation sounds upsetting. Awful watching them put to sleep, and also awful watching the fear in their eyes. Hope dd is ok now.

NC4- I too have emetaphobia (fear of vomiting). It is life changing and seeps into daily life. Pure fear. I really feel for your ds. Hope he’s ok now.

Had another shit day. Took dd on a school
Trip. Was meeting the school at a museum with dd, to save her the journey with them. While we were waiting, her throat closed again!! So there I was scrambling with needles and drugs again..this time in a coffee shop!! Ffs!! Have emailed her medical
Team. Twice in 16hrs is enough to cope with!!
So yet again..drinking!! Had a gin. Then 2 glasses of wine.

My unit count is so high I’d be ashamed to even write it here. Feel so ashamed of myself. But I can’t see a way out!!

Flossie I can't count my units, either. One night would be a on a par with some people's entire weeks. And I have no fucking excuse.

You, though, have every reason. I am so sorry for you and your DD. Love and hugs to you both. xxx

And it's funny that you mention cash for teeth, Frouby. I had several removed when I was little. DM said later that she found out that the dentist was paid for extractions, and she would have said no, had she known this at the time. She was only in her early 20s, and believed what she was told...

I’m with you on the dentist thing..I had sooooo much work when I was younger. Heaps of fillings and root canal. Everything I went to the dentist, I ended up with big work.
However, touch wood, as I’ve got older..each time I go, he fiddles around and says all is good!!
Dh however, eats shit, brushes his teeth but misses bits. Has never ever had a filling until
Yesterday!! Went to dentist in pain, had filling. Came home from work early..expected sympathy. Laid around moaning saying he was dribbling etc. He got no sympathy whatsoever. If he could manage to drink beer, then he could manage to remember to collect dd1 from
Her mates, while I dealt with dd2!!

I too had lots of teeth removed when younger. I had no idea they got cash for teeth!! Bastards!!

Flossie . That is too much to deal with, for sure.

Thank you all for being lovely. My teeth are fine - I have only ever had orthodontics. I blame dh's crap genes, but also her sweet tooth and inability to follow instructions. My poor little lamb.

Have managed to stay AF so that's something. Still feel a bit anxious though.

Anglaise I am pleased about the hyperthyroidism. That's really good news.

You are AF, Longest? I'm not, and I haven't had any dealings with a dentist. You are a better woman than I am...

Yes I am not really sure how. Was wallowing and then it somehow felt too late to start. Peppermint tea hasn't really calmed my nerves though.

Hang on? Cash for teeth? Is that why I’ve only got 24???

I have wobbly tooth phobia too.

I can’t wait till DS2 is on top of his teeth, but because he’s so sensitive he doesn’t brush properly. We have to take his toothbrush to the dentist in a few weeks so she can try and teach him.

NC4 wobbly tooth phobia fortunately you weren't here last week when DS pulled his wobbly tooth out himself during dinner because it was annoying him.
Nearly every child in France has a brace and therefore most adults have perfect teeth. DP says it is quite boring to see. If you want to be rich you train as an orthodontist. It's a huge racket.

Hauls self back in. So sick of myself. Ahhhhhhh

Another binge last night - me and DBestfriend had a bottle and a half of white each last night. Hungover and hate self.

Thisname, hugs. I am no stranger to that feeling, and it's horrible. I had a bottle of red for no reason at all, and am not feeling very keen on myself either.

Bottle of white here. Grim.

Bottle
Of white here too

Hugs to you both. Someone once told me when you're down on yourself imagine what you'd say to a dear friend who had done the same.

"Changer, it wasn't great but it's done now. Try to rack up so more AF days this week and be kind to yourself today"

I'm going to yin yoga tonight which is basically cuddling a beanbag for an hour.