i got sidetracked from hre as my ds came round for while.yes you will have a great time wotz,and like you i expect we will also chat all night ,but i will try and arrange it for after xmas now as there is a lot coming up in the next few weeks ,we have a joint birthday party for my ds and my gs who will be 18 and the next day is his dad,s [ my ds ] birthday so they have hired a hotel for the evening ,we will stay there for the night which will be very nice,I cant believe i have a grandchild of that age as i feel nowhere and nothing like a grandmum !!!especially when i have friends in their 30,s and i have chidren the same ages !!!