Remembering the time MN deleted my thread about David Walliams

[musicalfrog]

It was probably around 7 or 8 years ago, can't remember what username it was under even, I was complaining about people buying his books for my young ds as I was convinced DW was a complete creep. The video of him stripping a young boy on stage really disturbed me.

The thread went well, lots of people agreed with me. But MN deleted it as it was too 'personal' or something, I assume they had legal threats and had no choice.

Just goes to show the power of the man, and how hard he tried to keep the dodgy behaviour from any kind of conversation!

I don't suppose I was the only one to have a thread deleted.

Something to ponder.

Saw the clip on X I think.
Shocking to be honest. I think it was " find the sausage, or where's the sausage" basically teenage boys.(very embarrassed) on stage with Walliams grappling with them and pulling at their underwear trying to find a sausage.
You'd have to see it to understand how embarrassing for the teenagers & creepy it looked for Walliams.

So.. just to clarify for some. Nothing I wrote personally was libellous (as others have corroborated, the incident did actually happen, unfortunately).

But of course the way the thread went, there was most likely some libellous stuff added.

Which in hindsight likely wasn't libellous but ofc we didn't know that for sure back then.

I think it is though. Just my opinion.

It is vile

I don't think there's anything particularly ponder-worthy in MN deleting threads that have turned into a moderating nightmare because of defamation.

Bloody hell 😳

I think as a woman, and also as a mother, sometimes you just get an instinct about a man and sense that there’s something about them that makes them a threat, without being able to explain exactly what it is. And that’s without any obvious creepiness. At least, I sometimes experience that. So much on the news in recent years about horrible predators.

I remember when MN were deleting posts and threads left right and centre when anybody implied that Israel were committing a genocide. Well. Well. Well.

But why? Interesting that MN wasn’t allowing libellous threads 8 years ago?

But at the time it would have been libellous!

Yes, and sometimes it can help to know you're not the only one feeling that!

I do.

It's another layer of protection for predators.

ETA I still know they had no choice. It's the world we live in, sadly.

cc @5barks

Going around in circles here @musicalfrog .

8 years ago you started a libellous thread that MN correctly deleted .

I know. Read what I'm writing.

Yes the “world we live in” has laws regarding slander, libel, defamation. And I for one am glad of that

No.

I give up with you now.

I remember your thread as my son was reading one of DW’s books at the time. The footage of him with the 16 year old boy made me feel sick.

You say you find it “interesting” and “sad” that a thread that at the time was libellous was pulled

Very odd

your libellous thread 8 years ago was pulled.

Absolutely shocked at that YouTube clip - was this a comedy stand up show or live or pre-recorded TV? If pre-recorded, I can’t believe it wasn’t deleted before being shown to the public. What channel was it on if on TV? I wonder if it got lots of complaints at the time?

You've still not really said why it's ponder worthy. Maybe that would help.

Because it evidently seems bleeding obvious to a lot of us that a business won't want to do things that cause them more aggro than benefit. Anything that's potentially defamatory obviously falls into that aggro category. It's not even just about people who genuinely think X is a paedo. Accusing X of being a paedo with no proof is a good way for anyone who wants to shut down discussion about X being a wrong un to get it done.

And MN is a business. Their aim is to get views, sell ads and subscriptions. That's what they're for. Any threads that's more trouble than it's worth gets in the way of that, which is also why non-defamatory bunfights get deleted all the time too. Pretty basic stuff.

I've said (more than once) that this is just another layer of protection for predators.

That is why I think it's worth pondering.

Libel laws are a protection for us all

It is very arbitratry what they shut down.
There was disgustingly thread on here recently about Laura Brand saying really vile things about her that MN showed to stand.
In the days when Madeline McCann was in the news every thread was shut down because the parents were litigious.

I've also said I'm not laying blame at MN door.

Although some on here appear to want to demonise me. 🤷🏻‍♀️