Noel Fielding..

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… is very silent about Russell Brand, isn’t he?

It is absolutely as dodgy as fuck that they were mates. I doubt NF done anything but being friends with RB is bad enough in itself.

However, there are a lot of people on another thread defending Laura Brand - like RB is sooo sooo clever and manipulative, like he could be charming and she fell for him, and how its not her fault. Would be hard to imagine he done the same with friends? Maybe a lot of people only seen his charming and funny side, and only heard of him being promiscuous - not predatory.

I don't know much about their history together but Noel seemed put on the spot and just playing it out. Of course he should have said this is inappropriate and not gone along with it.

It makes me wonder just how many of Brand’s friends will find themselves contaminated by association; many of them must have known what he was like just from the language he used.
Certainly Jonathan Ross, Noel Fielding are two who, imo, are of the same ilk. I’ve never been able to stand either of them, there’s something grimly repugnant about their demeanour.

You're all putting a lot of effort into ignoring the fact that 'everyone' in Brand's professional circles DID know he was a rapist. Women were told not to be alone with him on the comedy circuit, at TV companies, at his publishers. Of course those close to him were aware.

Oh well that proves it then. @Tiddlywinks63 can't stand JR and NF.
Take them down!
This is turning into a who hated them the most and decided that the earliest competition.
It isn't right.

Seeing as a significant proportion of the female population that went out in Camden through the period were making a point of avoiding him because of his inability to hear the word 'no' and the only thing that seemed to make a difference to his hearing was the presence of a giant beardy metalhead bloke to get the point across, it's quite remarkable how so few men on the scene seemed to know anything.

As if a massive star would choose to have sex with a sixteen year old girl for the clout of her being the daughter of a one hit wonder from the 70s?!
He did it because he fancies 16 yo girls.

Yes we know his promiscuity was well known. That isn't what we're talking about.

The op and posters like you seem to think that NF always knew that Brand didnt get consent. I don't think it's reasonable to suggest that.

Blame the person convicted, not their many friends and contacts.

Are you the sort who would also blame the wife of a rapist or a murderer, thinking they too must have known??

Yes, at work/through work.

All I can say is ‘hindsight is a great thing’. It is very easy to miss the signs, not realise the significance, attach behaviours to other things and carry on.

Of course, once all evidence comes to light, it is easy to see.

As far as I know he hasn't dated another 16 year old.

I'm not going to argue with you but if he fancied a young girl he probably could have done better than Pixie. He had a lot of young fans.

Edited: also, after he done the Mighty Boosh he wasn't exactly "massive". certainly nowhere near Geldof's level.

The case I have mentioned, the judges summing up was that the headteacher ‘had groomed a whole community, pupils, parents, staff, governors and local people’.
That’s how people get away with it, including where people are brave enough to speak out and are not believed.

Times have changed too. Sadly more acceptable at the time, behaviour, jokes, banter.

Done better than pixie?! What do you mean by that?

He's a dirty git and shouldn't date that young. End of.

I mean, that's an astonishing leap. To say that I'd blame the wife of a rapist. Surely you can do better than that. I'm talking about the men who stay silent when other men are abusing women. The men who say nothing when their mates are being vile or predatory. And those like Noel Fielding who not only actively remained best friends with one of them, but enthusiastically joined in with rape jokes. RB's predatory behaviour and vile comments were prolifically broadcast, literally! So NF knew RB was an unsavoury character and a rampant misogynist. It would be like having Jim Davidson as your best friend and saying you had no idea he was a racist prick with no respect for women either. This thread is obviously the mutual admiration society for Noel Fielding, so I concede that I'm flogging a dead horse.

I know somebody who is very good friends with NF and his GF. RB was never part of his actual friendship group.

Mm..Well, maybe his days on Bake Off are numbered. Rape and Raisin Bread's not really a good look, is it.

What a disgusting thing to say

Dont want to say crap about another female but if Pixie wasn't a Geldof girl I doubt she would have had a look in.

Do you know anything about Geldof kids? I mean, really?

A look in? Like she should be grateful a 35 yo man shagged her?

I'm not saying she should. I'm also saying he dated her purely because she was a fellow celebrity who was hanging out at all the same parties/ places he was, "dating" guys his age way before he came on scene.

I would also add I find all Geldof kids absolutely tragic... Heroin, sex and alcohol at such young age.

Jonathan Ross started going out with his wife when she was 16 and he was 26. 10 years gap is not huge, but it is at that age. One is very much an adult, the other a child however sophisticated they say she was for her age. So all three of them had a liking for 16 year olds.

I'm not trying to justify NF for dating Pixie, she was a tragic and fucked up kid who should have not been allowed to lead the life she did. However, I doubt he would date an ordinary 16 year old. Like I said, he had a lot of young fans, and so far there is nothing about him trying it on with any of them.

However, sadly, I would be upset but only mildly surprised if someone says he is rapey, too. Seems like all guys in power are.

I think a fellow teaching colleague turning out to be guilty of sex crimes against children is a bit different to Brand and his friends/colleagues in the entertainment world. Presumably if you're a teacher and get the slightest inkling a colleague has committed a crime you instantly ring alarm bells. Lots of Brand's colleagues were also his friends and it emerged in the recent court case that assaults committed by Brand were often done in front of lots of witnesses. So yes, lots of his people in his social circle knew exactly what he was like. And were seemingly either happy to turn a blind eye, or were unbothered by his behaviour.

Back in those days when I was a dumb teenager I thought that RB was super cute but look how that turned out.

Did you also found his humour "cute"? Because NF's humour was a big part of what I found attractive about him. Did you listen to RB talking about ramming a dick down a woman's throat and thought "awww, cute".