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CurlewKate · 21/10/2026 11:15

I would love to see statistics about the number of children saved from drowning by swimming lessons in a warm pool, and the number of children who get into trouble in the water because they and their parents are lulled into a false sense of security because of those lessons.

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OhBotherSaidPoo · 21/10/2026 11:16

Mmm ok. Bit weird.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 21/10/2026 11:17

Ok then?

Argostoys · 21/10/2026 11:18

Just how would that work?

BirdLandedonmyHead · 21/10/2026 11:21

There is evidence that people who cant swim avoid risky situations around water.

JabbaTheBeachHut · 21/10/2026 11:23

Statistics on people who don't drown because they can swim??

How on earth are they going to be compiled? 👀

Dreamerinme · 21/10/2026 11:23

Are you trying to justify to yourself that children’s swimming lessons are a con and a waste of money?

HikingHippo · 21/10/2026 11:25

My kids swimming lesson focus just as much on life saving skills (float to live, treading water whilst attracting attention, calling 999/coastguard, understanding the meaning of beach flags etc) as it does perfecting front crawl.

DorsetKnobBiscuit · 21/10/2026 11:28

Only a small percentage (20%ish) of people who drown in UK waters actually entered the water of their own accored. The vast majority find themselves in the water accidentally.

This report shows that 277 drowned accidentally in 2021, and just over 20% (61) of these were swimming. This can be set against the several million people we know swim outdoors each year, most of them many times a year.

Does this help at all? www.outdoorswimmingsociety.com/drowning-statistics/

Autumnalhibernationisthedream · 21/10/2026 11:38

DorsetKnobBiscuit · Today 11:28
Only a small percentage (20%ish) of people who drown in UK waters actually entered the water of their own accored. The vast majority find themselves in the water accidentally.
This report shows that 277 drowned accidentally in 2021, and just over 20% (61) of these were swimming. This can be set against the several million people we know swim outdoors each year, most of them many times a year.
Does this help at all? www.outdoorswimmingsociety.com/drowning-statistics/

This seems a bit mad though doesn’t it? I mean obviously it’s right but you would assume the problem is more someone out swimming than someone falling into water. All sad though

Understanding Drowning Statistics – Outdoor Swimming Society

drowning statistics show outdoor swimming is not dangerous; set against number of swims is very low risk. Saying it is gets in way of effective ways for people to keep safe

https://www.outdoorswimmingsociety.com/drowning-statistics/

WimbyAce · 21/10/2026 12:24

What is your point here? Bit odd!

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 21/10/2026 12:38

Fine.

I really like swimming though. So I guess I'll continue.

indieted · 21/10/2026 12:45

If you don’t want to get your kids swimming lessons, don’t.

EBearhug · 21/10/2026 12:56

I'd have thought someone who deliberately gets in for a swim is at far less risk of drowning than some who falls over board, slips on a muddy bank, is pushed and overbalances when larking about. Plus if it happens in the dark, there may be no one to see to be able to help.

Open water swimmers usually have a good idea of how to judge water conditions such as the dangers of deep quarry pools, rip tides, etc, and know their own tolerance to cold. I've certainly chosen not to go in or stay in because of strong waves or currents or getting cold. Open water swimmers will be dressed for it in a costume or wetsuit, not heavy outdoor clothes that will weigh you down and hamper your movements.

You're less likely to suffer cold water shock by getting in in a controlled way than falling in unexpectedly, and gasping and breathing in water.

Hypothermia will also hamper your ability to judge the danger of the situation and take action, e.g. swim to shore, and cold stiffens up your muscles (because it sends the blood to your core to protect your vital organs) and you physically can't move as easily.

There are quite a few reasons why it's more likely to happen to people falling in rather than planned swims by experienced open water swimmers.

FinallyHere · 21/10/2026 13:07

well said @EBearhug

im still stuck working out how to count the number of times things didn’t happen.

EBearhug · 21/10/2026 14:04

FinallyHere · 21/10/2026 13:07

well said @EBearhug

im still stuck working out how to count the number of times things didn’t happen.

You can't really. There will be people who are rescued and survive, but there will be others who never admit they were in trouble and got out of it, and others who never realise how close they came to disaster.

DorsetKnobBiscuit · 21/10/2026 15:19

Going back to the OP in light of the fact that 8 out 10 people who drown enter the water accidentally.

I suppose you have to think that a child is more likely to drown by finding themself in the water accidentally rather than of their own volition.

Then ask yourself - if my child accidentally found themselves in open water for some reason would I rather they were able to swim (having had lessons) or not be able to swim.

I know which I'd choose.

Are you ever going to come back @CurlewKate ?

Gabbycat245 · 21/10/2026 16:23

Are you high?

dizzydizzydizzy · 21/10/2026 16:37

BirdLandedonmyHead · 21/10/2026 11:21

There is evidence that people who cant swim avoid risky situations around water.

Ex lifeguard here. All my rescues were non swimmers
or weak swimmers. All in swimming lessons.

Apart from a beginner swimming lesson, one of the most risky situations is a small child or baby on a
float. That does lull the parents into a false sense of security. Nearly had to rescue a few kids that way because parents tend to turn their backs, not realising these things deflate, get pushed under water by swimmers or the kid takes it off or gets out.

NerrSnerr · 21/10/2026 16:40

How do you suggest the above statistics are measured @CurlewKate?

What is your actual issue? Is it that your children can’t swim and you’re getting a hard time from someone?

Portmore · 21/10/2026 17:26

There was a girl near me that drowned over the summer & had never learned to swim (had recently moved to UK)

There were thousands of children who had school swimming lessons who went swimming over the hot summer & none drowned.

There are statistics that support the safety benefit of school swimming lessons which is why they're funded.

Try RoSPA for statistics on child death through drowning.

Portmore · 21/10/2026 17:30

Here you go: proven scientific evidence complete with the statistics you requested that learning to swim (in a swimming pool) reduces risks of death in open water

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4151293/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4151293/

Nktes · 21/10/2026 17:33

How many are striaght foward got into unpredictable accidents, and how many involve deliberate acts or alcohol fueled stupidity.

I can see your point OP. I'm a reasonable swimmer, in that I'm not going to drown if you throw me in a pool, possibly even one with a mile swim to the side, but I doubt I'm strong enough to survive against strong currents or choppy seas, or very cold water.

I still think everyone should learn to swim.

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