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derxa · 04/05/2025 11:59

SerendipityJane · 04/05/2025 10:57

People don't tend to turn out to vote if they are ok with the status quo.

Something the good citizens of Birmingham really hate hearing. However I won't stop pointing out that 70% of them were clearly happy enough with the regime to sit on their arses and not vote.

"We didn't vote for this !"

Well, in a very literal sense, you did ... deciding not to choose is still a choice. Now fuck off.

Well said. (And I almost never agree with you 🤣)

itsgettingweird · 04/05/2025 12:01

Pointy things Flowers

PandoraSocks · 04/05/2025 12:05

Notonthestairs · 04/05/2025 11:19

Sorry to read that Pointy - but I raise my cup of tea to you and the positive memories you have BrewFlowers

Me too, pointy. 💐

BIossomtoes · 04/05/2025 12:35

Fucking hell, MN’s rancid today. I think I’ll stay here for a bit.

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Evenstar · 04/05/2025 12:35

Thinking of you @pointythings 💐

PandoraSocks · 04/05/2025 12:44

BIossomtoes · 04/05/2025 12:35

Fucking hell, MN’s rancid today. I think I’ll stay here for a bit.

It is awful. The racists are spewing their poison on various threads. It is pointless arguing with them.

Notonthestairs · 04/05/2025 12:49

“The UK government is preparing to launch a scheme to woo international research talent to Britain in the wake of US President Donald Trump’s crackdown on academic freedom in America. The initiative will be backed by about £50mn in government money to fund research grants and relocation, according to people briefed on the plans. They said the scheme is set to be announced in the coming days,”

Article from FT explains they’ll keep the scheme to areas of interest to the UK and will be expanded if it proves successful.

MissMarplesNiece · 04/05/2025 13:00

PandoraSocks · 04/05/2025 12:44

It is awful. The racists are spewing their poison on various threads. It is pointless arguing with them.

There's a few threads that I've started reading but have then come away from because I don't want to stay in a room with racists who aren't going to change their views no matter what I say. I don't know if that's the right attitude or whether letting them spew vile unchallenged is the wrong thing to do.

It's so disheartening to see that opinions, that a few years ago people would have kept quiet about and be embarrassed to express, are now being spouted openly. It scares me that even quite sensible, measured people have pushed to the right, and those who were already on the right are now pushing even further to the extreme right. DH said to me this week that he thinks that people trying to set fire to hotels where asylum seekers were living was this country taking a step towards ethnic cleansing. That's a very depressing thought.

PickAChew · 04/05/2025 13:36

MissMarplesNiece · 04/05/2025 13:00

There's a few threads that I've started reading but have then come away from because I don't want to stay in a room with racists who aren't going to change their views no matter what I say. I don't know if that's the right attitude or whether letting them spew vile unchallenged is the wrong thing to do.

It's so disheartening to see that opinions, that a few years ago people would have kept quiet about and be embarrassed to express, are now being spouted openly. It scares me that even quite sensible, measured people have pushed to the right, and those who were already on the right are now pushing even further to the extreme right. DH said to me this week that he thinks that people trying to set fire to hotels where asylum seekers were living was this country taking a step towards ethnic cleansing. That's a very depressing thought.

They do say you can't wrestle with a pig...

BIWI · 04/05/2025 13:48

Flowers @pointythings

cardibach · 04/05/2025 13:54

That keeps showing me a quick glimpse then coming back to this thread sadly 😔
I could do with a bit of Tucker.

Piggywaspushed · 04/05/2025 14:01

MissMarplesNiece · 04/05/2025 13:00

There's a few threads that I've started reading but have then come away from because I don't want to stay in a room with racists who aren't going to change their views no matter what I say. I don't know if that's the right attitude or whether letting them spew vile unchallenged is the wrong thing to do.

It's so disheartening to see that opinions, that a few years ago people would have kept quiet about and be embarrassed to express, are now being spouted openly. It scares me that even quite sensible, measured people have pushed to the right, and those who were already on the right are now pushing even further to the extreme right. DH said to me this week that he thinks that people trying to set fire to hotels where asylum seekers were living was this country taking a step towards ethnic cleansing. That's a very depressing thought.

Leave them to it. This stops the threads from trending. MN doesn't delete as avidly any more.

PandoraSocks · 04/05/2025 14:23

Piggywaspushed · 04/05/2025 14:01

Leave them to it. This stops the threads from trending. MN doesn't delete as avidly any more.

I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that this is the best thing to do.

DuncinToffee · 04/05/2025 17:03

Llttledrummergirl · 04/05/2025 10:24

Just watching Kuenssberg. She is woefully as usual, no fact checking/correcting going on. She's too busy thinking about her next question to pick up the twat fron reform.

He intends to hire lawyers, spend a shit ton of money on lawyers and take the government to court to stop refugees being held in his area. He didn't say what services he was going to cut to pay for this, and Kuenssberg didn't ask.

Taking the government to court to move them from hotels to tents it seems

cardibach · 04/05/2025 17:08

About to put myself through the Louis Theroux documentary about the West Bank. I’ve heard it’s excellent but a hard watch.

placemats · 04/05/2025 17:19

@pointythings Take care ❤️💐

placemats · 04/05/2025 17:25

Re nasty posts that are designed to frighten and anger you, this is how abuse works. They know exactly what they are doing.

Watched the video of Andrea Jenkyns taken in her car, it seems, Lewis Goodall LBC interview, and it's just exactly as above.

Don't pander to it and ignore.

Rummly · 04/05/2025 17:32

Don’t worry about it. It’s just Reform’s day in the sun. It’ll piss down on them soon enough.

cardibach · 04/05/2025 17:36

I hope you are right @Rummly

mum2jakie · 04/05/2025 17:39

Rummly · 04/05/2025 17:32

Don’t worry about it. It’s just Reform’s day in the sun. It’ll piss down on them soon enough.

Yes but plenty of time for them to cause some long term damage in the meantime!

placemats · 04/05/2025 18:04

mum2jakie · 04/05/2025 17:39

Yes but plenty of time for them to cause some long term damage in the meantime!

They won't do that. A lot of Reform councillors are Conservative who defected - they like to keep their seats.

PandoraSocks · 04/05/2025 18:16

Rummly · 04/05/2025 17:32

Don’t worry about it. It’s just Reform’s day in the sun. It’ll piss down on them soon enough.

I think you are right, but it is still a worry.

PandoraSocks · 04/05/2025 18:17

placemats · 04/05/2025 18:04

They won't do that. A lot of Reform councillors are Conservative who defected - they like to keep their seats.

I wonder if some them will defect back in a few months. Can councillors do that or do they have to step down?

PickAChew · 04/05/2025 18:23

placemats · 04/05/2025 18:04

They won't do that. A lot of Reform councillors are Conservative who defected - they like to keep their seats.

Only 4 (I think) of our 65 are ex-tory or independent with council experience. I'm sure Darren Grimes considers himself to have enough common sense to make up for his and everyone else's lack of experience, though.

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