Sleeping with 101 men in a day

[dorabora]

This 23 year old has recently done this, and uploaded the content to only fans. She has received alot of hate on TikTok but the men who took part have barely been mentioned.

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What do you think ?

I agree, there's obviously so much more to why women behave like this than not having a dad around. I find the "no dad" argument very prejudiced.

Well anyone would be hard pushed to find that many men attractive so she obviously doesn’t care about that and any man who’d actually be happy to be a part of that is very low value. So I’d say bottom feeders all round (there’s probably a relevant pun in that expression).

If she was my daughter I don’t think I could move on from it but my guess is her parents fall short too.

I haven’t read the article as I don’t need that in my brain.

It’s the oldest profession in the world and we should have some compassion for her because even though she thinks she’s empowered and in control, she is going to end up paying the ultimate price. A lot of these girls end up as junkies and die within a very short space of time, it happens all the time in the adult industry. Lily has done this way too publicly for it to have a good outcome. She is beautiful and has been led astray.

I’m not sure why so many posters are up in arms tbh.

Thats porn.
I dint think I’ve ever heard anyone saying that women involved in porn were somehow lesser than, giving a bad example etc? Usually it’s all about the fact they are abused, have had major trauma/tough upbringing/suffered SA or rape.

She isn’t going to tell anyone it was painful. She is basically promoting her OnlyFan account hoping men will jump at the opportunity. And they will.
Just like the first thing they did hearing the start of the trial with Gisèle Pelicot was to look for porn including ‘sex whilst sleeping’….

It's that competitive femininity thing which is often an indicator of something having gone very wrong in her upbringing or just mental health issues. She'll crash and burn and it'll be messy. I'm glad I don't know her.
It's just a fact that men are not as affected by it. Equality in that sense is impossible to achieve. They can walk away and any distaste is just fleeting for them. Women should know that and factor it in to their choices.

But it is not perceived by the partakers as harmful at the time.

Anyone may in retrospect, come to regret any act of previously consensually mutual sex. Anyone. You don't need to have slept with 101 men to have regrets regarding sexual encounters, that goes as much for sex within the bounds of traditional matrimony/monogamy as it does sex for money, or sex within a group. But it doesn't make, within a society that is functional benign regarding porn and is increasingly morally relativist, make the sex itself more or lesser 'wrong'

It's possible she may later in time choose to define herself according to a different, less sexually relativist world view. For e.g. she may become a mother and then choose to avail herself of a world view in which conservative sexual values are now useful and advantageous for safety and continuity and then reimagine her previous choices to fit her newly acquired values. And THAT spiritual(?) incongruence may then cause mental distress. Yes.

But as it stands, she has merely had more sex to more men in a single session than the norm. It is neither worse nor better than sex between merely two people.

Disgusting and repugnant

That was the other girl, Bonnie Blue'
In response to this Lily who is the person we're talking about doesn't agree with everything this other Bonnie Blue says. Lily said this:

"Lily disagrees with this view, saying on TikTok: ‘I don’t believe any woman owes a man [sex]. If you are doing it because you believe that is expected of you and that you owe someone, to me that is non-consensual.’"

So I don't know whether she'd right or wrong to do this, seems like self abuse somehow & I definitely think the men involved aren't thinking of her, just themselves. But she's an adult & it's not illegal.

I get why people are upset by the fatherless behaviour type comments (makes a change from women being blamed though), I don't think anyone is suggesting that everyone without a father figure growing up is like this, but as a possible contributor to seeking male validation to these sort of extremes.

It was when she said she had sore eyes from stuff being thrown on her face. I just thought oh that's not the life for me thanks.

I think with lily I think more than anything she's just stupid, she is clearly trying to make loads of money, and okay fair enough but is this really the way to do it ? To promote yourself as nothing more than a bike? What would she tell her future daughter ? Oh mum slept with loads of men in a day and that paid for our lifestyle etc...

It's Bonnie blue who really offends me though. Her attitude is revolting, the way she talks about women like we owe men sex, if we're not giving it them constantly we're frigid, not good enough, should be cheated on etc. that shit really makes me angry. I'm not here to please a man. I'm here for myself, and now for my kids. I'm by no means a prude or whatever you wana call it, I enjoy sex, but that doesn't mean I owe my husband sex. I will do it if I want too.

Completely agree.

Actually makes me feel like crying

Can't have been much fun. Women's sexuality always gets criticised, men's rarely. The men who participated are as thoughtless as the woman - though probably less sore.

I kind of disagree that she's not some sort of victim. She's definitely harming herself on many levels & we really just don't know enough about her or her background or motivation to make that sort of judgement. I think she is a victim, not of sex assault but something isn't quite right

Grim on every level.

That's an unbelievably stupid and counter-feminist thing to say. If I have sex with my husband 101 times, is my vagina tighter than if I had had sex with 101 men?!

@dorabora

The idea that this is empowering baffles me. If this was a feminist choice - then would we see men behaving in a similar way as ‘empowered’. We don’t.
We admire men who are successful in sports, academic, music etc. Not men who wear very little and sleep with 100’s of women.

It shouldn’t therefore be that we see a woman wearing very little/sleeping with 100’s of men as empowered.

I think this is ultimately harmful, especially if it encourages other young women to see this as empowered behaviour.

Absolutely agree with this.

The first people to blame are father and son team Guy and Tim Stokely.

Then, in this case, the men participating are to blame as they are they exhibit no humanity in exploiting this woman and treating her as a piece of meat.

However she presents herself in her video, I don’t victim blame her. She is yet another depressing product of our porn infused, commodified personal relations, big tech era and clearly is filled with self hatred. That’s tremendously sad.

Edited to add that no, of course it’s not empowering any more than pole or lap dancing or stripping is empowering. That was always a line sold to women to rationalise the commodification of female bodies for men’s consumption.

I doubt there was much sexually in it for her. As a logistical exercise, 8 hours is 4.5 minutes to mount, perform and dismount - for those who can get it up - if numbers 99, 100 and 101 got bored and went for a more satisfying kebab and the whole event is a failure.
On Twitter, I did see that she had folders of ID and STI checks and hundreds of condoms.
There are a number of fiercely feminist famous porn stars but the ones that I've heard of are clear that the economics of an ugly commercial business make 'feminist porn' a contradiction in terms.

She’s 23

I’m willing to bet she will regret this in future.

When people say it's "fatherless behaviour" they're not blaming the men though, they're blaming the woman for that too.

Surely statistically she must have herpes by now?

101 men actually turned up to stand in line to have sex with her, one after the other, like a pack of dogs? Wow. One woman acting against societal norms for money, possibly not entirely emotionally healthy, one, I can see that. But 101 men queueing up to do this??? What a very disturbing snap shot of male behaviour.

Sorry I am not buying this at all. You can appreciate something may be objectively harmful even if you didn’t ‘think’ it was at the time. This goes far beyond just potentially ‘regrettable’ sex. She is exposing herself to illness. She is perpetuating a dangerous narrative that women are merely there to be used. It is an extreme act of self harm, and people like you are on the sidelines cheering her on saying she merely has ‘different values’. And I’m sure people who self harm or take drugs or any other number of essentially damaging behaviours thought it was fine at the time.

if you genuinely think this is no worse or better than sex between two people then you need your head checking.