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Angry Shouty Parents Anonymous

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Fuckingmentalme · 18/07/2023 08:57

Are you an angry shouty parent?
Are you constantly wound up?
Are you on the edge?
Do any unexpected noises that your children emit leave you twitching? Did you fail to produce perfect children who follow you like ducklings when you're out and about? Do they instead tumble out of the car shrieking war cries? Do they shriek a lot? Do they laugh in libraries? Do you have a large living room with plenty of space yet the children choose to sit practically on top of each other to do any activity and then each claim the other is annoying them?Do they ask you endless hypothetical questions? Do they repeat your answers driving you to the brink of insanity? Do they fight constantly?

If so then I do not have the answer but I am sick* of being angry and shouty. It makes me feel unwell. I want to stop today. *I'm inviting other ASPs to join me who also wish to stop. We can check in on each other and generally be nice and supportive.

I plan to separate or distract as soon as bickering or shrieking occurs. That's my plan. That's it. Wish me luck

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BertieBotts · 23/07/2023 08:29

Yes, that's what I do basically. We let them get up and watch TV, which the 4yo can do himself. 1yo is still in a cot, though, so he can't get out by himself. DH was thinking about changing it to a toddler bed, but we have to buy the kit to do that. We probably will try this, though.

They have been totally into toast the last few days, but we're out of bread! And all shops are closed today. I gave them waffles and grapes. It was (luckily) only the grapes that DS3 sideswiped everywhere.

My morning rule is basically I do not play/assist with anything except for poos, breakfast and emergencies until I have had my coffee :D I sit in the same room with them but on my computer to warm up to the day.

I have started a new ADHD medication today (for me) so hoping that will help me stay calmer and less on a hair trigger. So far, it feels a bit nicer and better than my old one, but hard to tell. However, I have helped them both with lego, wiped down their table, picked up all the grapes and put away half of the washing, which is unusual for me to do all before 9:30. So maybe this is the right one for me.

DH is up now and has got them some weetabix. Feels calmer. House is a bit chaotic and needs a big clean, but trying to stay zen about this and not be irritated every time I try to do something and it's blocked.

We are planning to go to a little music fest thing today in the next hour or two, so let's see if I have energy to clean in the afternoon!

Fuckingmentalme · 23/07/2023 17:02

BertieBotts · 23/07/2023 08:29

Yes, that's what I do basically. We let them get up and watch TV, which the 4yo can do himself. 1yo is still in a cot, though, so he can't get out by himself. DH was thinking about changing it to a toddler bed, but we have to buy the kit to do that. We probably will try this, though.

They have been totally into toast the last few days, but we're out of bread! And all shops are closed today. I gave them waffles and grapes. It was (luckily) only the grapes that DS3 sideswiped everywhere.

My morning rule is basically I do not play/assist with anything except for poos, breakfast and emergencies until I have had my coffee :D I sit in the same room with them but on my computer to warm up to the day.

I have started a new ADHD medication today (for me) so hoping that will help me stay calmer and less on a hair trigger. So far, it feels a bit nicer and better than my old one, but hard to tell. However, I have helped them both with lego, wiped down their table, picked up all the grapes and put away half of the washing, which is unusual for me to do all before 9:30. So maybe this is the right one for me.

DH is up now and has got them some weetabix. Feels calmer. House is a bit chaotic and needs a big clean, but trying to stay zen about this and not be irritated every time I try to do something and it's blocked.

We are planning to go to a little music fest thing today in the next hour or two, so let's see if I have energy to clean in the afternoon!

I wonder a lot whether I have ADHD. Glad the new medicine seems to be working.

I went out this morning and came back to an empty house! I knew I should relax and read a book but the temptation to crack on quickly with a bit of housework was too much. It's so nice to get a bit of cleaning done without constant interruptions. OW! MUM! HE BIT MY BUM

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Fuckingmentalme · 23/07/2023 17:04

surlycurly · 22/07/2023 23:48

I'm currently an angry, shouty parent to a teen on holiday. He won't get up, won't get ready, is miserable all the time and treats me like I'm an idiot. I'm so very glad I paid all this money flying him to North Africa so I could shout at him here rather than just doing it at home.

Oh that sounds crap. Why don't you just leave him to it? Hope you can enjoy the rest of the holiday

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Fuckingmentalme · 23/07/2023 17:06

Ever so slightly less calm today but still not a terrible day. Youngest had a tantrum walking all the way home today but I was calm throughout. He was hungry and tired. I guess that happens when you won't have one bite of sunday lunch. Hmm

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noglow · 23/07/2023 17:12

Did ok today. LO got over tired and bit me. I have managed by hiding in the kitchen and drinking pukka calming tea..

DomesticElf · 23/07/2023 20:52

I think overall this weekend has gone well! No shouting, but 'stern mummy voice' came out on 2 occasions when 'listening ears' weren't switched on today. I think I was more frustrated with my DH than with DS this weekend 🙃
@surlycurly I have zero experience with teenagers, but that sounds tough. Hope you manage to salvage your holiday.

DomesticElf · 23/07/2023 22:01

@noglow well done for keeping it together, especially after biting incident.

noglow · 23/07/2023 22:02

DomesticElf · 23/07/2023 22:01

@noglow well done for keeping it together, especially after biting incident.

Thank you. I find it incredibly hard not to react shouty when theu get physical with me.

TeddyFluff · 23/07/2023 22:09

I have (sadly) found my tribe.

Fuckingmentalme · 24/07/2023 07:55

noglow · 23/07/2023 17:12

Did ok today. LO got over tired and bit me. I have managed by hiding in the kitchen and drinking pukka calming tea..

Well done!

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noglow · 24/07/2023 08:06

Argh! 10 minutes into today and I shouted :(

I need tips on how to cope with the relentless no don't do that.

Fuckingmentalme · 24/07/2023 09:04

noglow · 24/07/2023 08:06

Argh! 10 minutes into today and I shouted :(

I need tips on how to cope with the relentless no don't do that.

I have too. What is your plan for today? We are off to park in two hours.

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DomesticElf · 24/07/2023 09:05

@noglow sending ☕. I had most success with distraction, especially getting them into a garden/outside asap, even if it's a little drizzly it's puddle suit and wellies. Would that work for you?

noglow · 24/07/2023 09:15

I was only getting them up to go to nursery!

Fuckingmentalme · 24/07/2023 09:50

noglow · 24/07/2023 09:15

I was only getting them up to go to nursery!

Understandable. I'm very bad tempered when it comes to getting out of the house!

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NameChangedAdInfinitum · 24/07/2023 10:37

Yes me too @TeddyFluff !

Child with autism and suspected adhd and pda who talks at a rate of 800billion words per second that I feel like my brain is mush and I can't hear or concentrate on anything. Add in menopause and a husband with zero patience who needs to be instructed as apparently his initiative stops when he leaves work (totally conpetent in work!) and who can't find anything that doesn't fall into his outstretched hands 🤯

I love them both but sometimes I just want to be alone, all the time!

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 24/07/2023 10:55

I once ran away from dds when despite my pleading, they just would not stop fake-fighting and making a horrendous racket that had the dog joining in, barking her head off.

I got in the car, drove 2 hours to a friend I hadn’t see for ages, told her I’d run away from my kids, could I stay the night.
I did. Had a lovely evening with her and 🍷🍷.
Dh was away for work, dds were maybe 10 and 13 but TBH I can’t remember exactly.
I’ve never once regretted it.

(Dds, long grown up now, were fine.).

DomesticElf · 24/07/2023 11:19

@NameChangedAdInfinitum I think we are married to the same man 😂

BertieBotts · 24/07/2023 11:43

Weekend wasn't great, but both small DC might be coming down with something which would explain a lot. We have sent them into nurdery today but I'll pick them up after lunch. No doubt this will be the wrong decision according to DS2!

He gets into this state a lot recently where (for want of a better word) he is "crazy" or "annoying", he just wants to wind everyone up and is a bit TOO MUCH all the time. I want to talk to him about it, but I can never come up with a good word for how to describe that state to him. I feel like any word I can think of either sounds too negative or it's too ambiguous. The only thing that we do is use the zones of regulation colours - DH will point out "you're in the red zone" but he does it in such an accusatory tone of voice it frustrates me because that is not the point XD

I was able to mitigate this a little bit this weekend by suggesting colouring. I should do this more often. Maybe I need a little list/toolbox of calming activities, that have a low barrier of entry for me, to suggest.

Then another issue I have noticed. Does anyone else find that they are reactive to how their DC are? I find as soon as DS2 (it's only him that does it really because it's an age thing, I think) gets into a whiny/complaining/contrary mode, I get triggered into this state where my voice raises up, my tone is combative, I say things like "Oh my god" and "What do you WANT" and "can you JUST" and I want to say things like "For fuck's sake" (but I don't, though sometimes I whisper it to myself)

I know this is unhelpful, but I don't seem to notice I'm doing it until it's already started. But I realised the other day that nobody else does this (at least that I have seen in public) so there must be some way to not do it. It's embarrassing as well because everyone stares at me acting like a toddler and I know I'm being a crap parent in that moment.

It's times like:

We have to change trams next to the customer service centre and they have a little display in there which the DC like, so when we have a longer connection we often go in there to kill time, and sometimes we go in anyway and just get the next connection. On this occasion, we were about to catch a tram and I wanted to go out, but he wanted to stay in and look at a different bit. I did some spectacularly bad management of this, because I spotted a fire engine outside and impulsively thought aha! This will be more exciting than the other bit of the tram display! But this was actually just tricking him, really, into agreeing to go out to look at a fire engine and then tried to just steer them to the tram stop. They both started to whine/cry and said "No but we wanted to look at the trams!!" (but in a more 2/5 year old way) and I got frustrated and stropped myself and said something like "Oh for god's sake! Yes, fine!!!" And I stormed them back inside. Then we saw the tram go past otuside and I couldn't help saying "But now look, we've missed the tram!!" Which OBVIOUSLY upset them again and didn't help, it's not like we could have run and caught it. I was just pissed off and I wanted to let them know that I was pissed off. (Not helpful, not helpful!!!)

This whole situation was stupid, and it was my own fault, because I should have just made a decision in the first place (go get tram/look at other part of exhibit, get next tram) and stuck to it AND I should have been clear in my decision instead of pretending we were looking at a fire engine and then actually no we were getting the tram. I'm very - this is a very ADHD thing, the flip flopping and split second bad decisions. I justify it in a millisecond in my head, and I expect everyone around me to magically know what I am thinking and follow me and they are all lost and confused and have no urgency and then I get into a PANIC BUT THE PLAN WON'T WORK and think it's their fault. But it's not really.

That is not the only time that it happens. I'll come back with more but I need to go and get them now.

Daedalus84 · 24/07/2023 11:51

I was angry shouty mum daily. I still am sometimes! Medication helped although it was prescribed for another issue 😂 but also there was a great book I listened to, I’ll get the title a bit wrong but you should be able to find it with a Google “the book you wish your parents read and your children will be glad you did”. I’ll confess I didn’t pay massive attention but a few bits got through, about who you’re really shouting at etc. it’s not a magic wand but it definitely helped to give me pause a few times. Honestly I think my partner is still shouty / sharp on occasion but we are both trying (maybe he should try my tablets 😂)

sending strength and patience to all of us trying to stay on the non shouty wagon!

prettygirlincrimsonrose · 24/07/2023 13:33

@BertieBotts I just wanted to say I get the feeling of wanting DCs to know I'm pissed off (and knowing it's not helpful!) and using a combative tone - definitely not just you. Theres something about whining that I really struggle with. And I don't have an ADHD diagnosis but I get the thing about decisions too and suddenly thinking of something that I think will work and confusing DCs and then being annoyed they're not going along with it.

Currently trying to do the naming feelings stuff, but also talk about how I'm feeling and what I'm doing about it (I'm feeling cross and I really don't want to shout so I'm going to walk away for a moment/take a deep breath etc). I think there's something about fear, like being scared you'll end up in an unmanageable situation or fear that what your child is doing now (whining about a little thing after a lovely day) is going to be who they are longer term (ungrateful, selfish etc), and I feel like it's trying to not react immediately based on that. I've said some rubbish things, particularly to DS, and I'm really trying to change and be more in control of myself.

NameChangedAdInfinitum · 24/07/2023 14:07

DomesticElf · 24/07/2023 11:19

@NameChangedAdInfinitum I think we are married to the same man 😂

Can you have him for a while then, he's pissing me right off! 🤣

noglow · 24/07/2023 18:11

Fuckingmentalme · 24/07/2023 09:50

Understandable. I'm very bad tempered when it comes to getting out of the house!

It's the same routine every day but it always ends up with them running off somewhere

User68253 · 24/07/2023 18:32

Oh, I've found my people! Thank you for opening up and starting this. I am also a daily shouter. Currently I'm trying a self help method that I have heard about for years but have never tried, not only is it supposed to help you be more patient, rational and calm but also had lots of health benefits like not dying prematurely of a heart attack, cancer and diabetes! It's called... wait for it... sleeping for at least 7.5 hours a night. I've managed to keep it up for nearly a week now and it's definitely helping.

But seriously, I'm a chronic sleep procrastinator because I am so highly stressed out by my fighting, incessant noise makers that I find myself staying up into the early hours to recover alone and in quiet. Many people have recommended the book Why We Sleep upon hearing how little sleep I get, and I finally started it and have acted upon it's threatening words. The description of someone who is not getting enough sleep as someone who was easily irritated/struggled to regulate emotions was an eye opener.

Fuckingmentalme · 24/07/2023 21:23

@BertieBotts
Then another issue I have noticed. Does anyone else find that they are reactive to how their DC are? I find as soon as DS2 (it's only him that does it really because it's an age thing, I think) gets into a whiny/complaining/contrary mode, I get triggered into this state where my voice raises up, my tone is combative, I say things like "Oh my god" and "What do you WANT" and "can you JUST" and I want to say things like "For fuck's sake" (but I don't, though sometimes I whisper it to myself)

YES

For me, I can't pinpoint exactly when it will happen but it's usually after he's asked a lot of hypothetical questions and then he asks a reasonable and normal one. My voice goes all tight and clipped and I'm like "What now?" Then I'm ashamed. Or when I'm in task mode. I can't deal with the constant questions and whining when I'm just trying to get dinner on or washed up.

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