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Can anyone explain to me in simple terms what’s going on with Russia and Ukraine

43 replies

LovelyYellowLabrador · 25/02/2022 13:00

Like what’s the actual problem ?

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DownWhichOfLate · 26/02/2022 09:33

@MrsElijahMikaelson1 - how does Ukraine export 75,000 tonnes of bees?

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 26/02/2022 10:04

[quote DownWhichOfLate]@MrsElijahMikaelson1 - how does Ukraine export 75,000 tonnes of bees?[/quote]
I'd think that's honey although I rather like the idea of transporting bees round the world as crack pollination workforces.

Postdatedpandemic · 26/02/2022 10:05

This is an interesting insight into the situation
foreignpolicy.com/2022/02/23/united-states-europe-war-russia-ukraine-sleepwalking

DownWhichOfLate · 26/02/2022 10:07

Thanks @EmbarrassingHadrosaurus. That’d make more sense. I did a quick google and maths and a tonne of bees would be over 8 million of them, so it made no sense! Always best to check these stats.

PrimroseTheSmooth · 26/02/2022 10:13

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ukraine-russia-war-guide_uk_6217a25ae4b0d1388f10fea8 This is a good back-to-basics explainer.

RampantIvy · 26/02/2022 10:17

@BoodleBug51

It's what happens when senile old men with mental health problems get voted into power.

It's bewildering to think that Russia and the US have done so.

Less of the ageism please. Putin is an evil, narcissistic megalomaniac, but I don't think he is senile.
Roystonv · 26/02/2022 10:25

I have read that to sell the invasion to the Russians they have spread propaganda for some time that Ukraine is ill treating/killing Russians (even babies) in the Ukraine. So it becomes a rescue mission which obviously those less well read will support. So many in the vast rural areas still live a very simple hand to mouth existence.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 26/02/2022 11:20

@DownWhichOfLate

Thanks *@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus*. That’d make more sense. I did a quick google and maths and a tonne of bees would be over 8 million of them, so it made no sense! Always best to check these stats.
I'm so hoping that one of us who has read your calculation will remember it against the day we're in a quiz and this comes up.
DownWhichOfLate · 26/02/2022 11:28

Grin. Add to obscure knowledge database Grin.

PlanetNormal · 26/02/2022 11:28

This is a brilliant article by Andrew Neil in which he highlights Europe’s naivety, passivity & complacency regarding Putin’s intentions.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10553185/ANDREW-NEIL-West-impotent-long.html

ivykaty44 · 26/02/2022 11:44

MrsElijahMikaelson1 Thanks for the information, I knew they had some great resources but not the extent

ivykaty44 · 26/02/2022 12:00

You can see why Putin has made sure that Tory party were funded & Corbyn didn’t get into power, he didn’t want that

FatFredsFriedEgg · 26/02/2022 12:07

Putin believes the Russian people in Ukraine are being oppressed/treated badly.

No, he claims the Russian people in Ukraine are being oppressed/treated badly.

PlanetNormal · 26/02/2022 12:07

Corbyn didn’t need Putin’s help, or anyone else’s, to lose two general elections in 30 months. He lost because he was useless and unelectable.

ivykaty44 · 26/02/2022 12:11

vm.tiktok.com/ZMLBSL7Jo/

Have a listen to this until the very end

ivykaty44 · 26/02/2022 12:12

PlanetNormal

Corbyn in got more Labour votes than Blair in 2005

PlanetNormal · 26/02/2022 12:29

@ivykaty44

PlanetNormal

Corbyn in got more Labour votes than Blair in 2005

Blair won.
ivykaty44 · 26/02/2022 13:22

Blair won.

yes, and got less votes

you are suggesting that corbyn is useless and electorate wouldn't vote for him - yet that wasn't the case, he received more votes than other Labour Party leaders have, that have got into power

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