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Youngest mum whose parents didn’t know at 11...

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Breastfeedingworries · 27/06/2021 16:06

I’m so shocked by this article!!

Apologises if this has already been posted about.

Does anyone else know anything else about this? I hope her rapist will face justice. Why is it reported she’s a young mum! She’s 11, when she had sex. It’s disgusting. Horrified by this. :(

www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/11-year-old-girl-becomes-5579935?fbclid=IwAR1f-Abx0qIwCZIJ84bgAxo0mnLcgVnAdCUSCFMV9GdRL9OCZdbDeNQvDqs

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SleepingStandingUp · 27/06/2021 19:56

@thecatfromjapan
And, as I said before, for sexualised behaviour to come up that young, there will be grooming (by an adult) involved.
Yes but if there's an adult grooming the girl who then instigated sex with a boy, or there's grooming of the boy who then instigated sex that they were both equally happy to undertake, then the boy isn't a rapist. I don't disagree that in that situation both families need looking into

Francescaisstressed · 27/06/2021 19:56

When I was in school, two children aged 12 became parents. They were in a relationship. However, on reflection I do wonder whether there was abuse anyway? Seems very unusual for children to be sexually aware and active at that age.
Regardless, the way it's being presented by the media is horrible and a full investigation is needed.

Awalkintime · 27/06/2021 19:57

It's more likely that it is an older male. 4 out of 5 under age pregnancies are by a man having sex with a child so the odds are likely it is a man.

Also I think it's likely that it is a male relative/family friend given the mother said she didn't know. I think it's bullshit that the mum didn't know.

GreenCrayon · 27/06/2021 19:57

Who’s making up nonsense?

The nonsense is people trying to make out this is nothing more than 2 children experimenting or that children are getting more experimental these days. Spouting stuff like this is actively detracting from how appealing situations like this are. This isn't some childish romance gone wrong it's a case of serious neglect and abuse.

IDontLikeZombies · 27/06/2021 19:58

ancientgran, between the ages of 13 and 15, the ages of the partners is only one part of the story. Its really about the risk of harm and how best to help the child.

Mischance · 27/06/2021 20:04

Many years ago I worked as a social worker in a maternity hospital, where an 11 year old gave birth. There were many girls who presented in labour and no-one had noticed the pregnancy. Sadly this is nothing new.

I do not think any of it should be in the pages of a newspaper.

RozHuntleysLeftHand · 27/06/2021 20:04

I haven't RTFT yet, sorry.
Plus trigger warning

But the people saying "what about if its 10 Yr olds/they might not understand" have really fucking upset me.

You have no idea what it's like to be raped that young.

I was raped at 7 by the son of my mums friend who was 11.

We were sent to play together upstairs.
He was horrible to me then pinned me down.... I can't even say the rest yet and I'm nearly fucking 40.

It felt so wrong at the time, but I had no words to say what had happened, what was done to me.

I always put it down to that kind of "doctors and nurses" play shit, but I always knew it was fucking wrong.

It is only very recently I have realised the impact of that on my life.
It really, really fucks you up.

I haven't even changed name for this, because fuck it....

So don't you fucking dare pull the "it was only kids mucking about shit" because IT IS NOT.

This case is so so sad and horrific.

A little girls innocence and life as she would have known it has been taken away from her FOREVER.

RozHuntleysLeftHand · 27/06/2021 20:08

This poor fucking girl and the baby.

Seriously.

I don't care if the father was 10.... I'm telling you now its fucking horrible and shit and fucks you up for life.

Bordois · 27/06/2021 20:08

Oh Roz SadFlowers

RozHuntleysLeftHand · 27/06/2021 20:10

Oh and the boy who did it is now known to be fucking interested in much much younger girls.... So....

Ducksurprise · 27/06/2021 20:11

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RozHuntleysLeftHand · 27/06/2021 20:11

Thanks Bordois

GreenCrayon · 27/06/2021 20:13

There are no words RozHuntleysLeftHand Sad I hope you're in a happier place and thank you for being brave enough to share your experience. Flowers

thecatfromjapan · 27/06/2021 20:14

I'm so sorry Roz.

I'm so sorry.

💐

thecatfromjapan · 27/06/2021 20:15

If it's any comfort (and I know it might not be), it's part of my job to take this seriously. And I do. I really do.

Bordois · 27/06/2021 20:15

However a cared for eleven year old does not do this, a child that does this has been failed by their parents and society and is likely a victim of CSA

As "bystanders" we have the luxury or trying to understand how or why it happened, but it doesn't really help the person who was abused. In fact, it could make it worse for them as they may feel guilty for what their abuser went through and feel.like they have to somehow understand and forgive them for what they did.

BungleandGeorge · 27/06/2021 20:17

@RozHuntleysLeftHand I’m so sorry you went through that, just heartbreaking. I honestly can’t understand why anyone is seeking to normalise or defend sexual behaviour in kids.

HoneyzAiy · 27/06/2021 20:24

Ducksurprise

Wow, just wow. How insensitive must you be to write something like that to someone who was raped at 7 years old. Are you actually trying to get her to feel sympathy for her rapist because he may have been abused himself? How is pointing that out in any way productive or helpful to this discuss. I have reported your post and hope mn deletes it.

Fuckingcrustybread · 27/06/2021 20:24

@Ducksurprise
I can't imagine what you have been through and I am so sorry to hear this, even though you won't believe me with what I'm about to write.
However a cared for eleven year old does not do this, a child that does this has been failed by their parents and society and is likely a victim of CSA
@ducksurprise. You've highlighted a post by a victim of Child Sexual Abuse. Then you go on to excuse her abuser. You are a fucking disgrace to the human race.

RozHuntleysLeftHand · 27/06/2021 20:24

Thanks everyone. Flowers

I'll be honest and say its the first time I've shared that except in therapy, so it was fucking hard.

Tbh yeah he didn't have the greatest childhood, but I don't give a fucking shit to be absolutely honest with you.

It fucked up my life in so many ways, and informed my "worth" sex wise.

But at least I never had to go through what this poor girl has had to.

But I just want you all to remember that when you say "But what if its just kids exploring" it almost certainly is one, or both kids being fucked up for life.

HoneyzAiy · 27/06/2021 20:26

@RozHuntleysLeftHand

This poor fucking girl and the baby.

Seriously.

I don't care if the father was 10.... I'm telling you now its fucking horrible and shit and fucks you up for life.

I’m so sorry Roz Flowers
AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 27/06/2021 20:28

You’re so strong Roz and your insight is imperative to this conversation

RozHuntleysLeftHand · 27/06/2021 20:29

Sorry, last post.

But please please please don't think, even if they were both 10, that this was just experimentation gone wrong, I guess sometimes it might be, but just please don't assume it was, because even if the boy was abused himself, it does ABSOLUTELY NOT CHANGE the impact it will have mentally and physically on the girl in this scenario.

And this has made me feel wobbly so I'm going for a massive vodka.

TawnyPippit · 27/06/2021 20:29

I had noticed the headline in passing and mentioned it v briefly and factually at supper this evening with my DC who are 17 and 19. Both of them were truly and genuinely appalled and said straight off you cant talk about this, why are people even publicising it, this is rape, this is not newsworthy or something for the Guinness Book of Records etc. I was just pleased that, to the extent they represent younger people, they were so cross and adamant about how this was something to be dealt with sensitively and outside of the public eye, with full sympathy for the child involved.

RozHuntley - I send love and support to the 7 year old you, and also to the today you.

NeverNotChasingDreams · 27/06/2021 20:29

Ducksurprise please ask for your post to be removed.
It's not on the survivor of abuse to find excuses for their abuser.