Surviving R Kelly (Warning: Possibly triggering)

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Has anyone else managed to watch this? I managed to find a website to stream it (not sure if I can say it here but I can message you if you'd like details of where to watch).

It was one of the most disturbing, shocking & harrowing documentary series' I have ever watched. The depravity and lack of remorse of the man knows no bounds and he seems to be untouchable (more than likely paying witnesses off or intimidating them). He was allegedly sexually abused by his sister from a very young age & although this is certainly no excuse it possibly lead to his very very warped & sadistic treatment of women (sexually and otherwise).

Hopefully the tide is now turning on him though........

Now it is asking me to purchase a vpn app - I will rue buy it on iTunes us store but not sure I can do that ...

I haven't seen this but I listened to the Behind the Bastards episodes on Jim and they were grim enough.

Is that a podcast?

I will try search for a podcast on the topic too.

Thank you motherfork I will try that behind the bastards podcast.

I am listening to the NY times popcast on the pop critic / journalist Jim deragotis who kept on with the story.

Shocking the amount of control he exerted.

I recommend it, obviously with the trigger warning as above.

During his trial someone on R Kelly's team passed their details to another teenager who had a fake id (because she was underage to attend the trial) but she did attend the trial. During the trial they procured another underage girl for him.

The reporter made people around Kelly award of the allegations around Kelly and they were not dismissed.

If you're watching it on the website, click on alternate link 1 to watch it without the ad problem.

There's some next level brainwashing going on. The levels of manipulation and emotional abuse are off the scale, seriously.

Sorry, yes, Behind the Bastards is a podcast. I listen on stitcher but also on Google and apple podcasts.

Nytimes podcast with the reporter was insightful.

Parents of young women still stuck with R Kelly can not reach their children, police officers in Chicago also moonlight as Security staff for R Kelly - wtf???

He also alluded to a judge being a "bad actor" and severely limiting the scope of the R Kelly trial.

Excellent reporting I think the ny popcast podcast is worth a listen to.

Excellent reporting is needed more than ever.

I think the NYT journalist is referenced repeatedly in the Bastards episodes.

Yep he is

I really can't access the link on my phone as get weird messages that pop up saying someone may be monitoring my iPhone and so on.

People have know about this for years yet have chosen to work with him.

I've always wondered why on earth he hasn't been ostracised.

This is another case of harvey.

People have known about this for years and did nothing to help those girls and only cared about their careers. If most of the public were aware, you can be damn sure people who worked with him knew

I dont buy any celebrity acting shocked or apologising for working with him now, i’m especially looking at you Gaga! Her apology and excuse for working with him was pure shite , the only reason she has now come out with that statement is to help her oscar chances, when she worked with him she bloody defended the creep!

I have started to watch about about Kelly on YouTube. His ex Wife was a victim of domesic
abuse and thankfully got away. He is a nasty pos.

I’ve not heard any rumours. Not sure if I want to google

It's the remix to ignition put R Kelly in prison

People have known about this for years and did nothing to help those girls and only cared about their careers. If most of the public were aware, you can be damn sure people who worked with him knew Seems his music teacher knew. She told him "consistently" to stop meeting teenage girls! I am getting so sick of people covering up for these predators.

I was wondering of part of the reason he didn't get get found guilty, is because everyone is alluding to the video footage being child "porn"?

I wonder if they used it's correct terminology of "child sexual assault/abuse/rape" it would have been different?

Constantly throughout the series (I am on ep4) his abuse is refereed to as sex. Why aren't they calling it what it is? Rape? They are young girls, they cannot consent.

Another thing they also use a lot to describe the victims is "women" when again, they are NOT women. It's quite frustrating to watch.

Add to which, his older brother is so obviously in denial, trying to get their younger brother to take the blame for being in the video.

This is interesting.

The links on the website mentioned also took me to dodgy sites. Does anyone know if this will air on UK tv at all?

Hi it is going to play in the uk in February some time plus I am sure it will reach the uk iTunes Store eventually too.

differentnameforthis I am watching the interview with Carey Kelly - I believe him he alleges his older sister abused him and r Kelly while supposed to be baby sitting them while their mother worked. It seems she kept one of them in while the other played outside and then would swap them and sexually assault them separately.

It is all so sickening.

@help4, very believable.

It heartbreaking to watch how many teens and older women got sucked in by him.

Yep and women reporter from the Chicago sun times says r Kelly kept a bus a black away from the court house.

During breaks in his trial she would see the young girls who came to support him at the trial go to the bus.

Fucking sickening how complicit so many people were,

I totally agree about the language, rape and assault need to be used.

A block away not a black away

Yes, that struck me too! He was on trail and still he managed to get girls to do what he wanted. It's scary the influence he had/has on them!