'I've been disowned and shamed for saying women footballers must be boen with ovaries' Oliver Brown in The Telegraph

It doesn't does it. I'd like to hear TPA et al justify that.

While we're on a roll, anyone can link to that Italian TIM runner? I believe he had the audacity to rub female runners' noses in it, and then the Paralympics.

Do you mean this unit?

https://news.sky.com/story/valentina-petrillo-trans-paralympian-qualifies-for-womens-t12-400m-semi-final-13208574

Can't link, but was called Valentina Petrillo, I think?

Sorry, xpost @murasaki . That's much more useful..!

I found it interesting (read disgusting for that) that they were stringent re the sight tests for classification and not the fact that he is a great hulking MAN.

Indeed. "None are so blind as those who will not see".
Of course the TIMs see very clearly indeed. It's just the authorities who are wilfully blinkered.

Almost as though there's a hierarchy of oppression that we never quite manage to get listed on, isn't it..?

They rejig para classifications all the time, and people lose out, or combine them for races, and ditto. E.g Alfie Hewitt nearly lost out to a rejig of para tennis classifications.

Yet this blindingly obvious (yes, pun intended) bloke is included.

I would say a man who can't see he's not a woman is blind in so many ways.

Being trans is just who Giulia is. Giulia's mum says Giulia is special. Hateful Terfs on Mumsnet saying Giulia can't play are committing actual violence against schoolchildren. Just. Leave. Trans. Alone.

It's a nice evening, so I thought I'd save TPA the time.

You forgot oppressed, discriminated against, stunning and brave, but yes, it'd look a lot like that.

Also worth noting he was considerably older than many of the other athletes, yet beat a lot of them. Now why might that be.....

I watched him, and was delighted when he didn't actually win.

Would be curious to see where they are all now, Petrillo, Valentino, Hubbard, Khelif, Fox, McKinnon, Bridges, Thomas, that Canadian ambulance chasing harasser of Asian beauty therapists, that Z cup schoolteacher, and the trasher of Bud Light.
I'm sure I've missed dozens more.
What an ignominious bunch.

Funny you should ask that, it would seem that Veronica Ivy (formerly Rachel McKinnon) is now winning women's golf competitions.

https://www.yardbarker.com/golf/articles/trans_cycling_champion_is_now_dominating_womens_golf_with_another_major_win/s1_17759_44152502

Well, when doors are opened wide for you, it would be stupid not to walk thru them.
"This way please, ma'am".

So, a different name for every sport? That's novel.

There were a few TIMs that changed their surnames to womans names when GC people started calling them by their surnames rather than use their "female" first names.

I had read that McKinnon / Ivy is now in golf.

This is another of those advantages that people miss in the discussion. How many female athletes, who have certainly not maintained elite levels of fitness will reach elite levels of two sports in their lifetime?

There are women who have maintained their peak fitness and have changed sport. Or competed at levels in winter sports and summer sports.

But McKinnon / Ivy has not maintained peak fitness, yet can do this? Including having an elbow injury if I remember correctly. That would be an absolutely extraordinary female athlete to do that. Or one with male advantage.

McKinnon has been boasting about hitting his drives 280 yards, which would put him as one of the longest hitters on the women's professional tour. Strange isn't it, that these transwomen lose their strength when they put a skirt on, but 44 year old McKinnon is hitting the golf ball the same distance as a 44 year old man. I wonder why that is?

https://www.golfmonthly.com/features/the-game/how-far-lpga-tour-players-hit-every-club-in-the-bag

Hey, you can't keep a good man down, etc.