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Lilly Wachowski accused J.K. Rowling of "funding trans genocide" and compared her to the Nazis — and now, the author is responding to the Matrix filmmaker's criticism.

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ThatZanyFatball · 13/09/2026 08:50

Sounds like textbook defamation to me.

Lilly Wachowski accused J.K. Rowling of "funding trans genocide" and compared her to the Nazis — and now, the author is responding to the Matrix filmmaker's criticism.

J.K. Rowling’s rep responds to Lilly Wachowski’s accusation of ‘funding trans genocide’ (exclusive)

“The money that goes into you enjoying these products, a portion of that money goes to J.K. Rowling and that money goes into her funding anti-trans legislation all over the world,” Wachowski claimed.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/j-k-rowling-responds-lilly-194153968.html

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BezMark · 13/09/2026 14:45

AstonCanKissMyArse · 13/09/2026 11:54

Yes, this! ⬆️

This is simply about enforcing existing laws. If she's so wrong, then she'll lose the court cases, won't she? If they don't like it, they can stip breaking the effing law!

And they really need to look up the definition of genocide - it doesn't mean 'not being supportive of' it means wiping their genes out from the gene pool. How on earth do they think she's doing that? She's not going around having people killed (even the ones that threaten her life).

These people really are hard of thinking.

If, as some claim, there is a genetic component to trans identity, they are indeed the subject of genocide.

By the very people who recommend surgery that removes reproductive ability as "trans healthcare".

Gender affirming surgery is actual genocide.

BackToLurk · 13/09/2026 14:48

MyAmpleSheep · 13/09/2026 14:41

False.

If Wachowski had attacked JKR on X, she would have responded on X. Wachowski attacked JKR in a widely reported media interview, so JKR responded in a similar way. She doesn’t want to put herself up for an interview, so releasing a press statement is appropriate.

It has nothing to do with how rich anyone is.

Pedro Pascal started a thing using Instagram. JKR responded in Twitter. Pascal is worth millions too.

Find me a single poor person whom JKR threatened with a lawsuit, please.

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Indeed. Neil Blair has issued statements before when the attacks have been in the media. If it’s like anything else,the process will be

  1. idiot TRA makes overblown claim
  2. media approach JKR’s representatives for comment
  3. her agent releases a statement
MyAmpleSheep · 13/09/2026 14:52

alcovecupboards · 13/09/2026 14:40

I don't think you can argue that with any deal of sincerity when she's used SLAPP lawsuits in the past to threaten exactly that. But you've missed my point - she hasn't taken legal action against Lilly - nor has she gone on the attack on X. That's the difference here.

Which SLAPP lawsuits are you alleging JKR has used? I’m not aware of any at all, so what is your basis for saying this?

ThatZanyFatball · 13/09/2026 15:11

alcovecupboards · 13/09/2026 14:26

Usually JK will go on the witty/withering attack on X, but that's usually when it's people who don't have money. When it's a multi-millionaire movie director then suddenly it's her spokesperson issuing statements. It's something I've noticed for a while now.

Examples?

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alcovecupboards · 13/09/2026 15:16

ThatZanyFatball · 13/09/2026 15:11

Examples?

Rivkah Brown, Nicola E Spurling, and then there was some other person who had to apologise because he couldn't afford to fight back. The point is she has used her wealth to silence critics. But when the critic is someone who could call her bluff and engage her in a legal battle that would likely require her to go under oath in filmed depositions - then she doesn't take legal action. Whatever your views on JK - any wealthy person silencing critics in this way is outrageous. It's not acceptable.

alcovecupboards · 13/09/2026 15:17

MyAmpleSheep · 13/09/2026 14:41

False.

If Wachowski had attacked JKR on X, she would have responded on X. Wachowski attacked JKR in a widely reported media interview, so JKR responded in a similar way. She doesn’t want to put herself up for an interview, so releasing a press statement is appropriate.

It has nothing to do with how rich anyone is.

Pedro Pascal started a thing using Instagram. JKR responded in Twitter. Pascal is worth millions too.

Find me a single poor person whom JKR threatened with a lawsuit, please.

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Rivka Brown.

DworkinWasRight · 13/09/2026 15:21

Rowling (or rather her lawyers) forced an apology from the Metro for making the seriously defamatory claim that she was a Holocaust denier. I doubt the Metro are short of a bob or two.

DworkinWasRight · 13/09/2026 15:25

Oh, and alcove, your homework today is to go away and learn the difference between “criticism” and “defamation.”

I dare say it will take a few hours, but feel free to come back when you’ve understood it, and ideally no sooner.

alcovecupboards · 13/09/2026 15:27

DworkinWasRight · 13/09/2026 15:21

Rowling (or rather her lawyers) forced an apology from the Metro for making the seriously defamatory claim that she was a Holocaust denier. I doubt the Metro are short of a bob or two.

Of course they are! In any case they wouldn't be the ones making the decision - that would be down to the managing editor in consultation with the legal department and their insurers.

alcovecupboards · 13/09/2026 15:27

DworkinWasRight · 13/09/2026 15:25

Oh, and alcove, your homework today is to go away and learn the difference between “criticism” and “defamation.”

I dare say it will take a few hours, but feel free to come back when you’ve understood it, and ideally no sooner.

Do you understand what a SLAPP is?

ETA: Because a multi-millionaire hasn't been sued for the saying the same thing that someone who couldn't afford to fight back has said. What is your explanation why?

LaLoba · 13/09/2026 15:28

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2026 10:06

It’s worth reading the original long piece from over two decades ago, now deleted but you can find it online, documenting the brothers’ “transition”

Porn addled pair of creeps, as I recall. I’m pulling a disgusted face as I remember it 🤢

Maaate · 13/09/2026 15:29

who had to apologise because he couldn't afford to fight back

Or, had to apologise because they were chatting shit?

BackToLurk · 13/09/2026 15:30

DworkinWasRight · 13/09/2026 15:21

Rowling (or rather her lawyers) forced an apology from the Metro for making the seriously defamatory claim that she was a Holocaust denier. I doubt the Metro are short of a bob or two.

DMGT (who own the Metro) have annual revenue of around £1 billion. Prince Harry could also testify that the company (and their subsidiaries) aren’t shy of defending a lawsuit.

BackToLurk · 13/09/2026 15:32

alcovecupboards · 13/09/2026 15:27

Do you understand what a SLAPP is?

ETA: Because a multi-millionaire hasn't been sued for the saying the same thing that someone who couldn't afford to fight back has said. What is your explanation why?

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You’ve no clue what is going on behind the scenes.

Chersfrozenface · 13/09/2026 15:36

alcovecupboards · 13/09/2026 15:27

Of course they are! In any case they wouldn't be the ones making the decision - that would be down to the managing editor in consultation with the legal department and their insurers.

And the legal department would have advised the decision-makers that they would lose any defamation case. Hence the apology.

If Rivkah Brown and Novara Media had the sense to consult lawyers, they would undoubtedly have received the same advice. Hence the apology.

They would both have lost because they published defamatory material. Challenging defamatory material is not silencing.

AstonCanKissMyArse · 13/09/2026 15:36

alcovecupboards · 13/09/2026 15:16

Rivkah Brown, Nicola E Spurling, and then there was some other person who had to apologise because he couldn't afford to fight back. The point is she has used her wealth to silence critics. But when the critic is someone who could call her bluff and engage her in a legal battle that would likely require her to go under oath in filmed depositions - then she doesn't take legal action. Whatever your views on JK - any wealthy person silencing critics in this way is outrageous. It's not acceptable.

What are you talking about 'had to apologise because he couldn't afford to fight back'?

If someone had done nothing wrong they wouldn't have had to apologise would they?

Are you arguing that wealthy people should accept defamation from less well off people as some kind of democratic right? Why shouldn't she have the same rights and protections as anyone else?

Irs really very simple: if you don't want to be taken to court, don't say anything defamatory/ illegal in the public sphere - the same laws apply however much wealth you do/ don't have.

Maaate · 13/09/2026 15:41

Could you imagine the amount of money Jolyon could grift if he chose to represent someone poor downtrodden TRA who was being threatened with legal by JKR for making a truthful statement about her?

alcovecupboards · 13/09/2026 15:44

AstonCanKissMyArse · 13/09/2026 15:36

What are you talking about 'had to apologise because he couldn't afford to fight back'?

If someone had done nothing wrong they wouldn't have had to apologise would they?

Are you arguing that wealthy people should accept defamation from less well off people as some kind of democratic right? Why shouldn't she have the same rights and protections as anyone else?

Irs really very simple: if you don't want to be taken to court, don't say anything defamatory/ illegal in the public sphere - the same laws apply however much wealth you do/ don't have.

Do you understand what SLAPP is? It's literally an explanation.

Chersfrozenface · 13/09/2026 15:55

In SLAPP cases the plaintiff does not expect to win.

In the Metro and Rivkah Brown/Novara Media examples the plaintiff would have won.

So emphatically not examples of SLAPP.

Datun · 13/09/2026 16:00

alcovecupboards · 13/09/2026 15:44

Do you understand what SLAPP is? It's literally an explanation.

A multimillionaire claiming she's committed genocide and is a literal Nazi, is not going to lead to a slapp lawsuit, is it. Claiming she generates slapp lawsuits could also be defamatory.

She lets hundreds upon hundreds of things ride.

But if a powerful person is going to tell the whole world that she's committed genocide, is literally a Nazi, and recommend people boycott her product, then go figure.

And boy, are you quacking and walking like a duck now.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 13/09/2026 16:01

Chersfrozenface · 13/09/2026 15:55

In SLAPP cases the plaintiff does not expect to win.

In the Metro and Rivkah Brown/Novara Media examples the plaintiff would have won.

So emphatically not examples of SLAPP.

Perhaps these (had they gone to court) would have been good examples of an reverse-SLAPP - vigorously defending a position in court that has no chance of prevailing?

DworkinWasRight · 13/09/2026 16:27

alcovecupboards · 13/09/2026 15:27

Do you understand what a SLAPP is?

ETA: Because a multi-millionaire hasn't been sued for the saying the same thing that someone who couldn't afford to fight back has said. What is your explanation why?

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I do understand what a SLAPP is, but it’s quite clear you don’t - or that you’re pretending not to, it’s hard to say.

JKR is constantly subjected to unpleasant and offensive criticism on social media - my facebook feed is filled with endless crappy takes from so-called influencers about what a terrible person she is. She is also, as we know, on the receiving end of vast numbers of death and rape threats.

She ignores most of this. If she wanted to, she could easily silence people by setting her lawyers on them - she is, after all, vastly more wealthy than most people. To her credit, she doesn’t. If it amuses her, she’ll sometimes take the piss out of people like India Willoughby or other idiots.

But if someone makes a statement that is obviously defamatory, and that person has some public influence (eg they’re a journalist), then she puts her lawyers on the case and extracts a grovelling apology.

Calling someone a Holocaust denier is extremely defamatory. Do you really need me to explain why?

nicepotoftea · 13/09/2026 18:40

alcovecupboards · 13/09/2026 14:26

Usually JK will go on the witty/withering attack on X, but that's usually when it's people who don't have money. When it's a multi-millionaire movie director then suddenly it's her spokesperson issuing statements. It's something I've noticed for a while now.

Again, I'm not really understanding your point. Would you rather she bankrupted people who don't have money? Do you think she is trying to make money?

I do see from other posts that you have misunderstood the concept of a SLAPP.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 13/09/2026 18:45

MotherofPufflings · 13/09/2026 08:58

I think this sentence in the article itself is potentially libellous "She has habitually shared anti-trans rhetoric on social media, at one point tweeting that she'd "happily do two years" in prison instead of supporting policies protecting transgender people from hate crimes."

Yes the article is weird. The first two thirds are even and balanced, then the last paragraph looks like the TRA who usually does the tea jumped on the keyboard and posted a load of bad faith reddit "fact" dribble.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 13/09/2026 18:55

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/09/2026 14:43

Don't tell me - you're as GC as they come

we've all seen the "I personally believe in single sex spaces" TRA who then, as you seem to be doing, going to great lengths to imply that sadly it's just not possible so why don't we just agree to compromise ie let some men in

Yes. So often, what trips the type of posters you describe up is that statements made about beliefs, sympathy or reasons for posting on one thread don't line up with behaviour and snide remarks when they get frustrated on another.