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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez declares 'Woke was crazy'

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ArabellaScott · 01/09/2026 14:01

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/ed06ae08c99aac11

'New York congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez gave us that when she literally laughed off a movement she had become the poster girl for live on telly. It was in the midst of an ABC News discussion on the excesses of 2020 progressives earlier this month that she shared a saying from a colleague: “Woke 1 was crazy!”'

Seems a significant shift.

‘Woke’ was a disaster – even the Left admits it

Key liberal figures like AOC may distance themselves from the movement, but their punitive orthodoxy had a chilling effect on free speech

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/ed06ae08c99aac11

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ArabellaScott · 01/09/2026 14:32

My understanding is US politics is so polarised that most effort is expended on differentiating one side from the other.

Admittedly, this is partial.

But it is interesting to see Dems rolling back from 'woke'.

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AlonsoMosley · 01/09/2026 14:29

It is such a shame re Cortez because I really like her on many levels.

She has had many a good interaction with establishment politicians, and had many a good moment in Me Too.

She seemed to have been swept up in it.

I think the impact of Woke in America is bigger, and somewhat worse than here, given their history. I also think that they are still "in it" to a degree as it seems very firmly entrenched in the two political parties (how they only have two parties is beyond me!).

ArabellaScott · 01/09/2026 14:23

To me, AOC just seems startlingly fake. Like, not even a moderately good actor.

On her Insta, she is sharing a lot of stuff about freezing her eggs.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5027397-egg-freezing-clinics-give-misleading-information

I'll just leave this quote from Robert Winston here (my bold):

'It so happens that, as a kind of hobby, I regularly submit a Written Question—about every three years—to find out the results of egg freezing in the United Kingdom compared to those internationally. According to the latest results from the five years up to the pandemic, 75,958 eggs were subjected to thawing after freezing. Of these—I will round up the figures for speed—13,000 thawed, 11,400 were fertilised, 7,257 produced an embryo, 1,695 were considered suitable for an embryo transfer, 288 of the women got pregnant after transfer, 205 gave birth, and 80 pregnancies were lost as a result of miscarriage. In spite of the HFEA saying on its website that the effects are improving, when you look at these figures in detail you see that they are not.

Only last week, on BBC radio, a well-known individual who was a senior member of the HFEA said that the success rate of egg freezing is 18%. It is nothing like that. In fact, according to the figures I have just given the House, less than 0.2% of eggs that are subjected to thawing result in a live birth, and only 1.7% of eggs that are fertilised become a baby. Women do not want miscarriages, and if there is any violence that you can talk about, having a miscarriage is certainly one of them. It is really quite shocking that this goes on and that this kind of information is bandied around in this way. It is not acceptable, and it needs to be done much more carefully by the Government, because the Government are responsible for the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority. It needs to make certain that the website says what the success rate is. It does not say what the success rate is; it just says it is improving.

Moreover, the website says that egg freezing is completely safe. How can we say that? It has been going for only 20 years, and it will be a long time before these children can be followed up as adults. It probably is safe but we do not know that. The high miscarriage rate is one certain concern that I have. Clinics are telling patients—I hear this again and again—that if you come to the clinic you have a 60% chance of having your eggs frozen, with a successful baby afterwards. This is a scandal, and it needs to be halted and taken under control."'

Egg freezing clinics give 'misleading' information | Mumsnet

[[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68505321 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68505321]] 'The Fertility Network was reacting to BBC analysis that found 41%...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5027397-egg-freezing-clinics-give-misleading-information

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ArabellaScott · 01/09/2026 14:17

'Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ... literally laughed off a movement she had become the poster girl for live on telly. It was in the midst of an ABC News discussion on the excesses of 2020 progressives earlier this month that she shared a saying from a colleague: “Woke 1 was crazy!”

Ocasio-Cortez’s tone is important – masterful, from a political perspective. It’s the indulgent tone of a woman pointing to a 50-year-old picture of herself in stirrup leggings and a batwing jumper. “Wasn’t Eighties fashion crazy!”

Only we’re not talking about statement sleeves here. We’re not talking about a garment you can shrug off and giggle at retrospectively. (Just six years ago, this woman wanted to defund the police). No, we’re talking about a punitive orthodoxy that had a chilling effect on free speech, that encouraged Medieval-style public shamings and cancellations and robbed people of their livelihoods.

We’re talking about a dangerous dogma that – in allowing ideology to outrun evidence in children’s medicine, of all places – encouraged experimentation on six-year-olds. It wilfully put girls and women in danger, made a mockery of women’s sport, prioritised symbolic gestures over practical solutions and turned competitive victimhood into a national sport'

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singthing · 01/09/2026 14:14

She is a traitorous cow and the internet of women will not forget how much damage she did, however hard she tinkly laughs.