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Reality Rules Parkrun Launch 3 October 2026

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IwantToRetire · 31/08/2026 00:48

Today was another Parkrun Saturday and like every weekend the achievements by women was demoted by men running in the female category.

We are hoping to change this! In only a few weeks time, we will debut Reality Rules Runners UK at Parkrun. We hope that many hundreds (hopefully thousands) of you will join us to send a clear and strong statement to Parkrun about the huge support there is for fairness and sex-based categories at their events.

All sports events are responsible for putting on fair events. This includes free, volunteer run, community events like Parkrun.

So please tell people about Reality Rules Runners UK, as we are hoping to attract lots more supporters before our debut at Parkrun on 3 October.

Thank you! 🙏

https://realityrulesrunnersuk.substack.com/p/another-parkrun-down-only-a-few-weeks

Came across this by chance, so dont know more than this!

They are also on X for anyone on X https://x.com/RRRunnersUK

Another Parkrun down, only a few weeks to go

Today was another Parkrun Saturday and like every weekend the achievements by women was demoted by men running in the female category.

https://realityrulesrunnersuk.substack.com/p/another-parkrun-down-only-a-few-weeks

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PollyNomial · 03/09/2026 15:33

Helleofabore · 03/09/2026 13:51

Ultimately, it is meaningless … to you.

To others, it is not meaningless at all.

There are plenty of competitive running clubs around awaiting your application.

SirChenjins · 03/09/2026 15:37

PollyNomial · 03/09/2026 15:33

There are plenty of competitive running clubs around awaiting your application.

If a man wishes to compete against women competitively then competitive running clubs are the place for him.

PollyNomial · 03/09/2026 15:54

SirChenjins · 03/09/2026 15:37

If a man wishes to compete against women competitively then competitive running clubs are the place for him.

If anyone wishes to run competitively, they are the appropriate clubs for them; don't need to exclude women...

SirChenjins · 03/09/2026 16:13

PollyNomial · 03/09/2026 15:54

If anyone wishes to run competitively, they are the appropriate clubs for them; don't need to exclude women...

Absolutely there are competitive running clubs that welcome men who wish to run competitively against women. The great thing about these clubs is that they are open and upfront about the competitive element - so men who claim they are women can run against actual women and compete away to their heart's content.

iwishitwouldstartraining · 03/09/2026 16:36

PollyNomial · 03/09/2026 15:54

If anyone wishes to run competitively, they are the appropriate clubs for them; don't need to exclude women...

Like the clubs that the Parkrun founders were members of when they set up a time trial for fellow club members?

If they wanted to drop the competitive time trial aspect they are free to do that, but they obviously understand that participants value it. I don't think their policies have anything to do with inclusion - it's just that creating sex categories is a hassle and lack of sex categories has little negative impact on competitive men.

MagpiePi · 03/09/2026 17:09

PollyNomial · 03/09/2026 15:33

There are plenty of competitive running clubs around awaiting your application.

But running clubs don’t hold competitions, they are where athletes go for training. You need to enter competitions in order to run competitively against other athletes.

IwantToRetire · 03/09/2026 17:34

Just a reminder that the OP was about the launch of a new event!

For anyone interested have found this

Sign up to our newsletter to join our official launch event
https://realityrulesrunnersuk.substack.com/p/sign-up-to-our-newsletter-to-join

For anyone on X https://x.com/RRRunnersUK

Where I have just seen this

UK Running club for women & men who know biological reality matters in sport. We expect fairness through sex-based categories at parkrun.

Sign up to our newsletter to join our official launch event

Reality Rules Runners UK will officially launch at Parkrun in a few weeks.

https://realityrulesrunnersuk.substack.com/p/sign-up-to-our-newsletter-to-join

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AlexandraLeaving · 03/09/2026 17:37

RoundedRobin · 31/08/2026 11:02

There comes a point for all runners when they're going to become slower so by 'competing against themselves' they're sure to lose. I took up running 20 years ago aged 40, I'm slower now than I was 15 years ago but I'm fast for a 60 year old woman.

Results based on age and sex enable me to compare myself to runners the same sex and age as me. A man running in the women's category ruins that.

This important point seems to have been lost by the 'competing against yourself' advocates. I don't run myself but I wonder if it is yet another of those things that we only realise as we get older and can't quite grasp when we are at the age when we seem invincible.

Helleofabore · 03/09/2026 18:21

PollyNomial · 03/09/2026 15:33

There are plenty of competitive running clubs around awaiting your application.

You again fail to acknowledge that the act of releasing first finishers, any ranking at all, and the presence of any categories makes Parkrun a competition.

They can deny it all they want, it doesn’t change the accurate description of Parkrun having a competitive element. Therefore it is discriminating against female people by not following the EA2010 when they need to.

Mysterian · 03/09/2026 22:19

iwishitwouldstartraining · 03/09/2026 16:36

Like the clubs that the Parkrun founders were members of when they set up a time trial for fellow club members?

If they wanted to drop the competitive time trial aspect they are free to do that, but they obviously understand that participants value it. I don't think their policies have anything to do with inclusion - it's just that creating sex categories is a hassle and lack of sex categories has little negative impact on competitive men.

The guy who set up parkrun was coming back from injury and was suffering from depression so he set up a fun run to meet up with his friends who were competing in races. It was set up to be for a fun get together and for mental health reasons.

Helleofabore · 03/09/2026 22:46

Mysterian · 03/09/2026 22:19

The guy who set up parkrun was coming back from injury and was suffering from depression so he set up a fun run to meet up with his friends who were competing in races. It was set up to be for a fun get together and for mental health reasons.

And yet, there are published rankings such as first finishers. And there are categories.

When you have those, whatever argument people present cannot change the reality - it has been set up to be competitive. Regardless of any denial.

GreenwayHouse · 03/09/2026 23:12

Doowoddy · 02/09/2026 18:29

It seems obvious to parkrun has an identity crisis and needs to pick a lane.

Either it's non competitive fun run- in which case participants receive only their own timed result, plus whatever points towards the various challenges. No rankings, no 'first finisher'.

Or it's a lightly competitive run with fair rankings and an expectation of honesty and integrity from its participants.

It cannot be a competitive run with rankings for men, and a fun run where rankings don't matter for women.

I suspect they're terrified of removing rankings completely as they know how many men actually do care about them, despite shouting at women that they don't matter at all.

So they are stuck, but only because of their intrinsic sexism. They are truggling to find a fair way for women that won't upset men, and they consider these two things to be equal priorities.

Couldn’t agree more, @Doowoddy

GreenwayHouse · 03/09/2026 23:29

I’m so bored of some of the ridiculous arguments that are being used to defend the indefensible.
It’s not just a “fun run”.
If it is, take away all the published results. There’s be an outcry. We’d see how many men see it as a “fun run” then.

Some of these tired arguments are like the “I have a gender neutral toilet at home” one that still gets wheeled out, even though it’s very five years ago.

What this issue has flagged up is that there are a huge number of misogynists about and an equal number of handmaidens willing to throw their own sex under the bus. Very depressing.

Helleofabore · 04/09/2026 06:46

Defending parkrun’s decision is like saying women should ignore sex discrimination against them for a good cause.

Every argument I have seen so far has supported sex discrimination for a good cause. But apparently feminists are the problem.

Rollingpinofdoom · 04/09/2026 07:04

Helleofabore · 04/09/2026 06:46

Defending parkrun’s decision is like saying women should ignore sex discrimination against them for a good cause.

Every argument I have seen so far has supported sex discrimination for a good cause. But apparently feminists are the problem.

There was a American TRA being interviewed on a show saying he’d be happy for his daughter to lose to a TIM in sports because she already had so much privilege and it’s not a big deal if she loses. Wonder if his daughter feels the same way…l

iwishitwouldstartraining · 04/09/2026 07:09

Mysterian · 03/09/2026 22:19

The guy who set up parkrun was coming back from injury and was suffering from depression so he set up a fun run to meet up with his friends who were competing in races. It was set up to be for a fun get together and for mental health reasons.

He set up a time trial for his club mates.

There is nothing wrong with doing something non competitive or doing something for your mental health, but these were competitive club runners and the whole point was that it was timed.

If they wanted to just run together there are club runs every week. Initially it was called ‘Bushy Park Time Trial’ and it was first incorporated as U.K. Time Trials Ltd.

But you don’t need to know the history to observe that they publicly share course times and ranking.

I don’t know why you are bothering to argue that black is white.

How many times does it have to be said that they don’t need to share everyone’s times, but they do because participants clearly value the ability to compare?

Helleofabore · 04/09/2026 07:11

Rollingpinofdoom · 04/09/2026 07:04

There was a American TRA being interviewed on a show saying he’d be happy for his daughter to lose to a TIM in sports because she already had so much privilege and it’s not a big deal if she loses. Wonder if his daughter feels the same way…l

I saw that and I was horrified for that daughter.

iwishitwouldstartraining · 04/09/2026 07:16

Rollingpinofdoom · 04/09/2026 07:04

There was a American TRA being interviewed on a show saying he’d be happy for his daughter to lose to a TIM in sports because she already had so much privilege and it’s not a big deal if she loses. Wonder if his daughter feels the same way…l

Wonder where he stands on women who identify as trans competing?

They have the choice of not being competitive against men or forgoing treatment and competing as women, but people have different expectations of them for some reason…

Rollingpinofdoom · 04/09/2026 07:28

iwishitwouldstartraining · 04/09/2026 07:16

Wonder where he stands on women who identify as trans competing?

They have the choice of not being competitive against men or forgoing treatment and competing as women, but people have different expectations of them for some reason…

Funnily enough, he didn’t mention them once. I don’t think he gives a flying fuck about women however they identify apart from as emotional support animals to men

Mycatisfab · 04/09/2026 09:12

It's Schrödinger's race/fun run. Simultaneously not important for women and extremely important for men

NotRubenNeves · 04/09/2026 09:24

MiddleAgedDread · 01/09/2026 11:18

Firstly, the way they've written this makes it sound like this is happening at every parkrun across the land. I'd like to see their stats on how often this if happening, or suspected to be happening, because in all my years of being a parkrunner, Run Director, touring many different events, and being on a number of different parkrun social forums I have only heard of one individual being reported for this so it definitely isn't impacting many people's weekly parkrun results. parkrun scrapped the stats of things like course records and male/female first finishers a while back (although they're still there if you know how to find them).
When you register there's the option to select from male/female/another gender identity/prefer not to day. Now I guess that trans people should be picking "another gender identity" but if they identify as male or female then that's probably what they're going to select.
Also, the majority of people won't actually know or care if their gender position is one place lower than it should rightfully be and given the inaccuracies in some results it might not be 100% anyway. People can also lie about their age should they wish to.
Ultimately, it's a volunteer led event, there's no prize money for "winning" (technically it's a run not a race) and you can register under any persona without being verified or run without being registered.
Yes, i agree that the female category should have females being compared equally against each other, but it's parkrun not the fucking Olympics or even a paid for race!!

Well ... I am old and my favourite part of ParkRun is the Age Grading Button. Youngsters can whizz round in 20 minutes or less and I can still beat them with my age advantage.

ArabellaScott · 04/09/2026 09:28

Parkrun presents itself as a charity, relies on volunteers to operate, and has staff taking six figure salaries.

Parkrun claims its just a fun run but publishes times and rankings.

Parkrun insists its 'inclusive' but actively attacks and excludes women with gender critical views.

I'm seeing a pattern.

ArabellaScott · 04/09/2026 09:29

I'd be really interested to see a breakdown of the sex of volunteers, too.

Seriestwo · 04/09/2026 09:41

It’s so annoying that they can’t see that sex and gender are not the same. I register my sex under their banner for gender and they think that is tolerable and creates a loophole . I think anyone who thinks that is either stupid or likes porn with men with boobs and watches it far too much.

TheKeatingFive · 04/09/2026 09:58

Seriestwo · 04/09/2026 09:41

It’s so annoying that they can’t see that sex and gender are not the same. I register my sex under their banner for gender and they think that is tolerable and creates a loophole . I think anyone who thinks that is either stupid or likes porn with men with boobs and watches it far too much.

They can see that.

It just suits them to pretend otherwise