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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Services and spaces should be separated according to gender, not sex

33 replies

BackToLurk · Yesterday 19:19

Because that’s the argument isn’t it? If trans rights activists and their allies accept that no one changes sex, then what they are really arguing for is that any separation should actually be made on the basis of gender.

As I’m a helpful sort, I’ve started a whole thread for people to make that argument. Off you go fellas. Bring your brightest. Make your case. I really do want to hear it. (And I’m not, for once, being sarcastic).

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Eclipsing · Yesterday 19:30

Aren't there supposedly 57, or 62, or 553 genders? (Choose your figure, I've lost count). That's an awful lot of separate spaces.

AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 19:29

IwantToRetire · Yesterday 19:25

I dont think anyone thinks there is a case or why a feminist forum would invite anyone to clog up the forum with a thread that is directly in opposition to a forum based on women's sex based rights.

Perhaps those who want to engage with people they know they disagree with could ask MNHQ to set up a forum called something like Trans Ideology?

Grin

How can you clog up a forum? Just hide the thread if it is not of interest.

AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 19:28

Great, I too am looking for some clarity on why we should separate by gender, rather than just make all the current separate-sex spaces into mixed gender spaces.

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · Yesterday 19:25

BackToLurk · Yesterday 19:22

I have a very sunny, optimistic disposition.

I do not. And I certainly do not live in hope.

But, let's see what happens.

It would probably be useful to start with a definition of "gender" first. Baby steps.

IwantToRetire · Yesterday 19:25

I dont think anyone thinks there is a case or why a feminist forum would invite anyone to clog up the forum with a thread that is directly in opposition to a forum based on women's sex based rights.

Perhaps those who want to engage with people they know they disagree with could ask MNHQ to set up a forum called something like Trans Ideology?

Grin
Octavia64 · Yesterday 19:23

Most services and spaces don’t need to be separated at all.

BackToLurk · Yesterday 19:22

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · Yesterday 19:21

I think people have been asking for some time for someone, anyone, to make that case cogently.

Hasn't happened yet, but I think we probably live in hope.

I have a very sunny, optimistic disposition.

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · Yesterday 19:21

I think people have been asking for some time for someone, anyone, to make that case cogently.

Hasn't happened yet, but I think we probably live in hope.