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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

On The Sad Passing of Dolly Parton

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GreenFinchAndLinnetbirds · 28/08/2026 15:59

J.K. Rowling mourned Dolly Parton, then deadnamed a trans woman under the same post. Dolly’s fans did not hold back.
Rowling has spent years using her platform to harass and invalidate transgender people.

Dolly Parton spent decades making LGBTQ people feel loved.

After Dolly died, Rowling began praising her online, calling her Imagination Library “the best contribution to child literacy ever made by a celebrity.” She said they crossed paths once backstage at a talk show in the 90s, and she was “tongue-tied and starstruck.”

The replies quickly filled with the Dolly she left out.

In 2005, Dolly wrote and recorded “Travelin’ Thru” for Transamerica, a film centered on a transgender woman.
When North Carolina passed its anti-trans bathroom law, Dolly said she hoped everybody got the chance “to be who and what they are.”

When Tennessee was targeting trans people in 2023, Dolly said trans people could not help being trans any more than she could help being Dolly Parton.
“I know and love them all, and I do not judge.”

Rowling was still in the replies.

She answered British trans activist Dame Katy Denise by deadnaming her and saying she had seen her birth certificate.

When another user said she and Dolly had nothing in common, Rowling replied that “neither of us want Jolene to take our man.”

Dolly once put it this way: “We are all God’s children and how we are is who we are.”

There is a further article of the right-thinking world's reaction to Rowling's... characteristic behaviour here: https://www.out.com/celebs/jk-rowling-dolly-parton?mrfcid=202608266a8c32408240c960826a25ab

J.K. Rowling torched for tone-deaf tribute to Dolly Parton: 'A new low'

The transphobic Harry Potter author was slammed for her social media soliloquy by fans of the iconic ally.

https://www.out.com/celebs/jk-rowling-dolly-parton?mrfcid=202608266a8c32408240c960826a25ab

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thirdfiddle · Yesterday 21:11

PrancingPanda · Yesterday 14:05

Not getting the 'chair poverty' thing

But I do have some spare chairs, which I'd swap Dr Dame Katy for an autographed pic 'cos she's an absolute icon and is also stunning and brave.
Go Dr Dame K-D

😡at so called intelligent people (Cambridge academic et al) calling JKR 'transphobic'
Change the bloody record

Re chair poverty, if you want to check out the #chairpoverty tag on xitter.
It was basically poking fun at the number of men identifying as women using fetishy pictures of themselves lying or sitting on the floor or draped over other non-chair pieces of furniture. Or maybe they're just trolls claiming to identify as women as an excuse to air their fetishes. Who can tell? Neither possibility is good for TRA arguments.

UnpopularOpinionsIWouldUsuallyKeepToMyself · Yesterday 21:01

She answered British trans activist Dame Katy Denise by deadnaming her and saying she had seen her birth certificate

Oh dear me, I don’t know how I missed this yesterday but, fuck me, this is hilarious. Do you currently identify as a Numpty, OP?

testmatchspecial · Yesterday 20:52

PrancingPanda · Yesterday 14:05

Not getting the 'chair poverty' thing

But I do have some spare chairs, which I'd swap Dr Dame Katy for an autographed pic 'cos she's an absolute icon and is also stunning and brave.
Go Dr Dame K-D

😡at so called intelligent people (Cambridge academic et al) calling JKR 'transphobic'
Change the bloody record

It’s because there are countless pictures of AGP men posing, often in odd positions which presumably they think are “sexy” when they could just be sat down normally. Have a scroll through Dame Katy’s X page and you’ll get the gist. So Katy/Keith surmises they can’t afford chairs and selflessly campaigns to help them.

Tallisker · Yesterday 18:49

Waitwhat23 · Yesterday 17:58

We're so glad to see so many of you lovely people here tonight
And we would especially like to welcome all the
Representatives of the various types of the chair community
Who have chosen to join us here in
Dame Katy's dining room at this time
We do sincerely hope you'll all enjoy the show
And please remember people, that no matter what type of chair you are
And what you do to live, thrive and survive
There are still some things that make us all the same
You, me, them, everybody, everybody

Everybody needs some chairs, yay!
Everybody needs some chairs (yay!) to love
Sofas to love (sofas to love)
Couches to sit (couches to sit)
Chaise longue to fit (chaise longue to fit)
I need tub, tub, tub
I need dining, dining, dining
I need swing, swing, swing
In the evening (I need club, club, club)
When my knees are on fire (I need arm, arm, arm)

Sometimes I feel
I feel a little sad inside
When my chair, it just fails me
And I fall straight down, right on my behind
I need deck, deck, deck
I need stool, stool, stool
I need bench, bench, bench
I need pew, pew, pew
I need you

You know people when you do find that chair
Hold that sedan, hold that ottoman
Love it, cherish it, upholster it, clean it
Cushion, throw and comforter it, give 'em all those accessories
Make sure you don't pour your tea all over it
Because it's so important to have that special chair
To sit, rest, perch, pose, and lounge

Everybody needs some chairs (yay!)
Everybody needs chairs (yay!) to love (everybody)
Sofas to love (needs somebody)
Couches to sit(everybody)
Chaise longues to fit (needs somebody)

Thank you! Brilliant 😆

Cailin66 · Yesterday 18:19

Screamingabdabz · Yesterday 17:44

Jeez what a jump scare that image is! 😦

Well you clearly haven’t seen the three lovely “lassies” from the Polycule….

IwantToRetire · Yesterday 18:00

ErrolTheDragon · Yesterday 17:28

I get the impression from discussions I’ve heard that she may have had political views but very deliberately maintained strict neutrality as a matter of policy. One example was that she found excuses to decline accepting some particular honour from Trump and then also declined accepting it from Biden.

Yes I heard about that and other examples of not wanting to be seen to be part of a side.

And she may have looked uncomfortable on stage with her former co-stars, but that could also have been because they knew that she didn't like public grandstanding so for them to use the situation to make speeches to puff themselves up was actually a slight to her.

Many years ago I heard an interview with Jane Fonda and bits were about feminism and also acting with Dolly Parton. And Jane Fonda said that in terms of feminism she learnt more after Dolly Parton invited her to to her home and then took her round various places from her childhood and where (at that time) she had help local people get work etc.. And Jane Fonda said she learnt more about what it is to actually be a feminist rather than someone who makes statements about being a feminist. And that part of that was the difference of having a poor working class background.

But seems this lesson disappeared as she is still very much a celebrity politico. Accept that with her reputation hard not to be sneered at.

But Dolly Parton never fell for that performative politics, or rather didn't stand on a soap box but put her well earned money into helping others.

Waitwhat23 · Yesterday 17:58

We're so glad to see so many of you lovely people here tonight
And we would especially like to welcome all the
Representatives of the various types of the chair community
Who have chosen to join us here in
Dame Katy's dining room at this time
We do sincerely hope you'll all enjoy the show
And please remember people, that no matter what type of chair you are
And what you do to live, thrive and survive
There are still some things that make us all the same
You, me, them, everybody, everybody

Everybody needs some chairs, yay!
Everybody needs some chairs (yay!) to love
Sofas to love (sofas to love)
Couches to sit (couches to sit)
Chaise longue to fit (chaise longue to fit)
I need tub, tub, tub
I need dining, dining, dining
I need swing, swing, swing
In the evening (I need club, club, club)
When my knees are on fire (I need arm, arm, arm)

Sometimes I feel
I feel a little sad inside
When my chair, it just fails me
And I fall straight down, right on my behind
I need deck, deck, deck
I need stool, stool, stool
I need bench, bench, bench
I need pew, pew, pew
I need you

You know people when you do find that chair
Hold that sedan, hold that ottoman
Love it, cherish it, upholster it, clean it
Cushion, throw and comforter it, give 'em all those accessories
Make sure you don't pour your tea all over it
Because it's so important to have that special chair
To sit, rest, perch, pose, and lounge

Everybody needs some chairs (yay!)
Everybody needs chairs (yay!) to love (everybody)
Sofas to love (needs somebody)
Couches to sit(everybody)
Chaise longues to fit (needs somebody)

CassOle · Yesterday 17:51

BernardBlacksMolluscs · Yesterday 17:37

I’m afraid none of those raised a smirk

No, they are all pretty sad, really. An insight into the artist's mind.

Screamingabdabz · Yesterday 17:44

Cailin66 · 28/08/2026 16:59

Thanks for highlighting this man

https://x.com/damekatydenise_

Jeez what a jump scare that image is! 😦

BernardBlacksMolluscs · Yesterday 17:37

I’m afraid none of those raised a smirk

CassOle · Yesterday 17:34
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CassOle · Yesterday 17:33

I'm putting these separately, as I don't know if they will be approved.

On The Sad Passing of Dolly Parton
CassOle · Yesterday 17:31

Babybabybaby222's MS Paint cartoons might count. Although they are full-body horror in places (the full-body phallo, for example). Other F2M (biological females who identify as male) also make similar cartoons. The main subject is a F2M character who is very small and says 'dood' a lot. Sometimes a M2F character (often called Alice) is also included. Alice is depicted as a large biological male who sometimes looks after the F2Ms, acting as a kind 'big brother.'

It's interesting that these self-deprecating cartoons are made by biological females.

Edit - this is in reply to PriOn1's post upthread.

murasaki · Yesterday 17:29

Look for the chair necessities, the simple chair necessities, forget about your worries and your wife!

I mean the chair necessities, sod mother nature's recipes

That brings the chair necessities of life!

ErrolTheDragon · Yesterday 17:28

ApplebyArrows · Yesterday 16:17

Parton was an outstanding singer, and by all accounts a really kind person. But her generic "let's all just be nice to people" political philosophy is hardly a sophisticated viewpoint. (Perhaps she had more nuance in private.)

I get the impression from discussions I’ve heard that she may have had political views but very deliberately maintained strict neutrality as a matter of policy. One example was that she found excuses to decline accepting some particular honour from Trump and then also declined accepting it from Biden.

murasaki · Yesterday 17:11

I can see it coming in the chair tonight...

I'd rather not if it's ok with you...

murasaki · Yesterday 17:09

I'm sad to report that DP and I are unable to contribute to chair poverty. As every time we watch bargain hunt or similar shows we get the chair value very wrong. So 'we know nothing about chairs ' has become a thing in our house. Sorry, Keith!

This didn't go well for the OP, did it...

BernardBlacksMolluscs · Yesterday 17:07

🎶We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day, so let's start giving (chairs) 🎵

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 16:53

Ah, chairity anthems of the 80s.

How can we dance when our face is gurning? How can we sleep when our chairs are burning?

B9waiting · Yesterday 16:42

ApplebyArrows · Yesterday 16:17

Parton was an outstanding singer, and by all accounts a really kind person. But her generic "let's all just be nice to people" political philosophy is hardly a sophisticated viewpoint. (Perhaps she had more nuance in private.)

I imagine she did - she was very savvy but coming out on a particular political side could have (& likely would have) alienated half her fan base, therefore it was a shrewd business move to keep politically neutral.

lcakethereforeIam · Yesterday 16:32

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 13:02

Chair Aid.

Seat the wo-orld
Let them know its sit-down time..

Whoo-ah, we're halfway there
Waah-ah, sitting on a chair 🎶

ApplebyArrows · Yesterday 16:17

Parton was an outstanding singer, and by all accounts a really kind person. But her generic "let's all just be nice to people" political philosophy is hardly a sophisticated viewpoint. (Perhaps she had more nuance in private.)

ErrolTheDragon · Yesterday 15:47

lifeinthelastlane · Yesterday 14:17

I'm not unstanding this at all. Other than the tribute JKR posted, what did she do to annoy anyone on twitter about Dolly? (Other than existing)

Obviously daring to say anything was enough, but it seems to have been her response to the Dr Dame’s quip which sent certain people into hilariously misplaced frothing madness.

6ate9 · Yesterday 14:23

lifeinthelastlane · Yesterday 14:17

I'm not unstanding this at all. Other than the tribute JKR posted, what did she do to annoy anyone on twitter about Dolly? (Other than existing)

And being a woman!

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