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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Are you tired of winning?

271 replies

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 17:43

Councils aren’t going for the ‘guidance’ and it is routinely ignored by trans people. When do you expect something to change?

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Pingponghavoc · 25/08/2026 20:04

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:59

I don’t know about that. I haven’t heard about an increase in trans people being told to leave.

Look on reddit.

Imdunfer · 25/08/2026 20:01

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:59

I don’t know about that. I haven’t heard about an increase in trans people being told to leave.

And yet the PR for the trans cause insists that there's been an increase in challenges to butch females.

You can't have it both ways.

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:59

Pingponghavoc · 25/08/2026 19:55

And if these men try to use womens spaces they will be told to leave.

That's the reality of the situation.

'I was in the ladies changing room because Im more comfortable with girls' isnt going to go down well.

I don’t know about that. I haven’t heard about an increase in trans people being told to leave.

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/08/2026 19:58

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:39

If a neutral spaces isn’t provided and the accessible space is off limits, then trans people are going to use the space that is most comfortable. It’s just the reality of the situation.

They need to get 'comfortable' with using the spaces that align with their sex, that's the reality of their situation, sooner they get used to it the better for them.

BackToLurk · 25/08/2026 19:56

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:39

If a neutral spaces isn’t provided and the accessible space is off limits, then trans people are going to use the space that is most comfortable. It’s just the reality of the situation.

Don’t they know what sex they are? Why does their comfort trump everyone else’s?

Pingponghavoc · 25/08/2026 19:55

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:39

If a neutral spaces isn’t provided and the accessible space is off limits, then trans people are going to use the space that is most comfortable. It’s just the reality of the situation.

And if these men try to use womens spaces they will be told to leave.

That's the reality of the situation.

'I was in the ladies changing room because Im more comfortable with girls' isnt going to go down well.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 25/08/2026 19:47

Well my workplace is complying so I’m delighted. As is my gym and several other services I use. So no. I’m not tired of winning.

And the councils will have to comply too. Even if there has to be court cases.

Imdunfer · 25/08/2026 19:46

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:39

If a neutral spaces isn’t provided and the accessible space is off limits, then trans people are going to use the space that is most comfortable. It’s just the reality of the situation.

Oh but so many of your tribe don't want neutral spaces, do they? And that's why they aren't campaigning for them, but for the right to be in women only spaces, which they want as a validation of their "femaleness".

Taztoy · 25/08/2026 19:46

I’m going to say what I’ve said a number of times. The registers here have no doubt heard it from me so many times.

the word is no lads, learn to respect it.

any man who transgresses that boundary and wants to trample over women’s right to not consent is heading down a road that ends in rape apology.

it’s important that this line is held because women’s consent matters. And I do not consent. And no one else gets to consent for me.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 25/08/2026 19:45

FlirtsWithRhinos · 25/08/2026 19:43

Oh yes, women are very well aware that for far too many men, "I want to do it. It makes me feel bad if she won't allow me to. If she allows me to feel bad when she could prevent it she must be a bad person. If she is a bad person her reasns for saying no are bad so her no doesn't count" is considered a valid chain of logic.

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Indeed.
The levels of entitlement and disdain for the safety of women and children are off the scale.

Taztoy · 25/08/2026 19:44

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:39

If a neutral spaces isn’t provided and the accessible space is off limits, then trans people are going to use the space that is most comfortable. It’s just the reality of the situation.

Aka they don’t give a fuck for half the population. And the rights of that half of the population. Got it. Thanks for setting that out so clearly.

Imdunfer · 25/08/2026 19:43

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FlirtsWithRhinos · 25/08/2026 19:43

Oh yes, women are very well aware that for far too many men, "I want to do it. It makes me feel bad if she won't allow me to. If she allows me to feel bad when she could prevent it she must be a bad person. If she is a bad person her reasns for saying no are bad so her no doesn't count" is considered a valid chain of logic.

Imdunfer · 25/08/2026 19:42

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:39

If a neutral spaces isn’t provided and the accessible space is off limits, then trans people are going to use the space that is most comfortable. It’s just the reality of the situation.

No matter how uncomfortable that makes anyone else feel.

Yes, we know.

Taztoy · 25/08/2026 19:42

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:39

If a neutral spaces isn’t provided and the accessible space is off limits, then trans people are going to use the space that is most comfortable. It’s just the reality of the situation.

And I’ll be reporting them to the police for any offence I can think of. And if I have to tell them twice that’ll be harassment. And I’ll be reporting the service provider

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:41

Imdunfer · 25/08/2026 19:38

I wouldn't use a men's loo when a man was in a shared space.

It is not OK for you and people like you to think that your discomfort at being in the loo for your sex trumps a woman's discomfort of sharing single sex spaces with people with male genitals. Your collective arrogance on this point is quite shocking.

If you could also have a word with people like the trans guy wearing a t shirt and skin tight black leggings exposing his obvious dick while I'm trying to eat my ham sandwich in a cafe (good job it wasn't a sausage roll) I'd be grateful.

That sounds like a weird clothing choice for a trans man presenting as male.

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solerolover · 25/08/2026 19:40

MyPearlViper · 25/08/2026 18:14

I'm not tired of winning. Plus I love the huge cheques I get each month from the American Far Right and JK Rowling

Don't go around spilling our secrets to all and sundry!

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 25/08/2026 19:39

I've been talking to a young pregnant women today bemoaning the fact that she can't take her toddler swimming in the local pool because the changing areas are all mixed sex - allowing every passing pervert access to women undressing. All the data shows that the rates of voyeurism, indecent exposure and secret filming escalate in mixed sex changing areas.

She was quite matter of fact about the fact that she will no longer use the (very nice) swimming facilities while I was enraged that women are self selecting and stopping using these places. All because our institutions have signed up to the frankly predatory belief that women aren't entitled to privacy and must sacrifice their right to privacy, safety and dignity in favour of giving men access to their undressed bodies.

https://www.womensrights.network/post/how-leisure-centres-enable-sexual-predators

HOW LEISURE CENTRES ENABLE SEXUAL PREDATORS | Women's Rights Network | UK

A Women’s Rights Network Investigation, 2025By Faye McGintyLike an out-of-control bulldozer, the default implementation of a mixed-sex, village-style changing area in swimming pools and leisure centres is laying a trail of destruction through the lives...

https://www.womensrights.network/post/how-leisure-centres-enable-sexual-predators

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:39

Taztoy · 25/08/2026 19:35

They can stay the fuck right out of accessible (aka disabled) spaces unless they’re disabled.

if there’s a neutral space they can use that if they like. I don’t give a fuck where they go as long as they stay out of women’s single sex spaces, because they’re not women and disabled spaces unless they’re disabled.

im legally entitled to single sex provisions where allowed by law. And I expect those to be single sex.

If a neutral spaces isn’t provided and the accessible space is off limits, then trans people are going to use the space that is most comfortable. It’s just the reality of the situation.

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Imdunfer · 25/08/2026 19:38

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:25

So you obviously think using spaces for the opposite sex is okay?

I wouldn't use a men's loo when a man was in a shared space.

It is not OK for you and people like you to think that your discomfort at being in the loo for your sex trumps a woman's discomfort of sharing single sex spaces with people with male genitals. Your collective arrogance on this point is quite shocking.

If you could also have a word with people like the trans guy wearing a t shirt and skin tight black leggings exposing his obvious dick while I'm trying to eat my ham sandwich in a cafe (good job it wasn't a sausage roll) I'd be grateful.

Taztoy · 25/08/2026 19:36

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:30

Where do you live that it’s that common?

Tell me you never lived through the 70s and 80s without telling me.

cross dressing doesn’t raise an eye for me.

TheyAreLovelyLovelyPeople · 25/08/2026 19:35

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:32

Why specifically should they use the spaces for their sex? Shouldn’t gender neutral or accessible spaces be what they use?

You understand that gender-neutral means the same as mixed sex?

Shortshriftandlethal · 25/08/2026 19:35

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:32

Why specifically should they use the spaces for their sex? Shouldn’t gender neutral or accessible spaces be what they use?

Yes, i think the number of gender neutral/unisex facilities will increase with time. Many places already have them, alongside the single sex facilities.

Taztoy · 25/08/2026 19:35

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:32

Why specifically should they use the spaces for their sex? Shouldn’t gender neutral or accessible spaces be what they use?

They can stay the fuck right out of accessible (aka disabled) spaces unless they’re disabled.

if there’s a neutral space they can use that if they like. I don’t give a fuck where they go as long as they stay out of women’s single sex spaces, because they’re not women and disabled spaces unless they’re disabled.

im legally entitled to single sex provisions where allowed by law. And I expect those to be single sex.

popery · 25/08/2026 19:34

FlakyRobin · 25/08/2026 19:32

Why specifically should they use the spaces for their sex? Shouldn’t gender neutral or accessible spaces be what they use?

Male toilets are for all gender identities, and so are female ones. You're mixing up sex and gender again.

Why are male mixed-gender identity toilets less safe than female mixed-gender identity toilets?

Does sex exist and sometimes matter?

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