Janice Turner in the Times today

Of course it has never been legal, or fair, or appropriate to use the facilities designated for the opposite sex.

The main compromise, i suggest, lies in giving up trying to force people to validate or accept your/one's private belief.......by just accepting that you can get on with your life in the same way as everyone else does, and in such a way which respects that others also have specific rights and protections too.

There are established protections for those with trans identities...that has not changed. Everyone has the same civil rights.

I think the compromise she refers to is to stop fighting to get the law changed so they can legally use women's spaces and work instead on getting and using gender neutral
facilities.

The compromise would be in the agreement to stop trying to change the law, which they have every right to try and do.

Tbf, a lot of TRAs haven't been working seriously on trying to change the law; rather, they've been trying to pretend, and to convince the unsuspecting to believe, that the Law is and always has been what they would like it to be.

A lot of them are doing a lot of things. Some very bad indeed. But "they" aren't all the same, especially the people who transitioned many years ago.

I feel quite sorry for the ones who were quietly pretending to be women, never held a banner or tweeted a hateful statement in their lives, who were assured by Stonewall that they had every right to do what they were doing and then suddenly have been told that they don't.

I've heard of one who captained (I'm sure that's relevant btw, that a male became captain) a local cricket side for 20 years who suddenly isn't allowed to play for that team any more. I do believe that there are some who would be very afraid to use the men's loos in the local authority toilet blocks that you used to see everywhere in town car parks.

It is a complete mess, and I blame Stonewall for this and I'm beyond cross that they are throwing everything now into getting the law changed instead of doing the right thing for everyone.

If Stonewall had campaigned for third spaces in the first place, or for trans people to be safe & welcome in the spaces for their own sex, this might never have been a problem.

I have no sympathy to spare. I’ve run out.

Because women who say they are men are zero threat to men?

Which says absolutely nothing about female to male trans people so I still don't see the point your post was making.

All trans people should be subject to the same rules.

I am disappointed that nobody has asked for Mothin Ali's opinion on this.

These councils are declaring that they don't respect the right of religious people to know whether they are doing something that might be against their religious principles.

To be pedantic they aren't, because men and women are not the same and the reasons for single sex provision are not the same. As long as no drugs are involved, I don't think anyone cares about the existence of an open division for sport, for instance.

However, the rationale behind single sex toilets is privacy, which does apply equally to both sexes.