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6’10” former Knicks and Celtics star formerly declares for the WNBA draft

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LesbianNana · 07/08/2026 23:58

I can’t wait to see who drafts my girl Enes Kanter Freedom. 😂

In a video, the former New York Knicks and Boston Celtics star said: 'After careful consideration and reviewing the current eligibility guidelines, I’m officially declaring myself a @WNBA prospect.

'If simply declaring who you are is all that’s required, then I meet every single requirement necessary to compete in the WNBA.

'My team and I have carefully examined the WNBA’s eligibility criteria and governing framework surrounding self-identification and inclusion. Based on the current guidelines, I can and am officially declaring my eligibility for the upcoming WNBA draft in April 2027.”

”See you at training camp.”

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/wnba/article-16037187/enkanter-wnba-draft-trans-debate.html

Former NBA star officially declares for WNBA Draft amid trans debate

Kanter, who played in the NBA for 11 seasons, shared the announcement on social media on Friday afternoon amid the ongoing debate around transgender inclusion in sports.

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/wnba/article-16037187/enkanter-wnba-draft-trans-debate.html

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Chersfrozenface · 13/08/2026 11:19

Mmmnotsure · 13/08/2026 11:09

Royce White going off the reductio ad absurdum cliff:

Royce, sorry, Rocia White isn't saying anything we haven't heard or read trans people saying before.

Mmmnotsure · 13/08/2026 11:09

Royce White going off the reductio ad absurdum cliff:

6’10” former Knicks and Celtics star formerly declares for the WNBA draft
PassTheHanky · 13/08/2026 11:06

OMG I love Royce White (whoops sorry, accidental dead-naming, of course I mean Rocia White) the young, black, sometimes identifying as a trans lesbian two spirit woman basketball player. So inspirational, I hope one day to perfect her hair flick, I must keep practising.

fromorbit · 13/08/2026 10:30

JellySaurus · 13/08/2026 08:53

...she supports barrring transgender girls and women from girls' and women's sports.

I'm not clear on whether those are actually Sophie's words, but if the statement was ...she supports banning transgender males from girls' and women's sports, or ...she supports banning trans-identifying males from girls' and women's sports it would suddenly be a crystal-clear statement to every single 'I don't get all the fuss' person reading it.

No doubt TIMs etc would object to the wording, but that's purely because it makes everything so much clearer to call a spade a spade and not a forking spoon.

She didn't say anything like that she was interviewed by ESPN see below, her original words are way less inflammatory, and the interview went viral. If anyone spread that interpretation it is ESPN which is making money from all this drama. It is weird they don't quote their own piece. If men get banned from WBNA it is down to ESPN even more than Sophie. She wasn't publicising her views if she is asked she will tell the truth and she will never ever give up. That was what the interview revealed.

Love her or hate her, Sophie Cunningham won't be ignored

You say she's authentic? That's because she is, she says. "You see so many people change or try to fit into a box," she says. "I don't even know what that box is. It's a fake box. Everyone wants to look the same. Everyone wants the same vibe. Screw that. I'm gonna be me."

You say she's a "MAGA Barbie," as some corners of the internet have taken to calling her? Projection, she says, because of what she looks like and where she's from. She'll weigh in on how to "protect women's sports," she says, because she's in that world and feels qualified to speak to that world. "I got a lot of negative feedback about me hating trans. And I'm like, 'I never once said that,'" she says. "I think that I am here to extend love. But I also think with that love is truth, being honest. And I want to protect young girls in a locker room, or young girls in sport who shouldn't have to go against biological men."

But she also insists that none of this is some Rosetta Stone to unlocking the true nature of her political worldview.

"I'm very much in the middle. I agree with things on both sides, disagree with things on both sides. And that's all I've ever said about my political beliefs. But people love to assume."

https://www.espn.co.uk/wnba/story/_/id/49306657/sophie-cunningham-finger-point-indiana-fever-wnba

Love her or hate her, Sophie Cunningham won't be ignored

Without a starting role and without apology, the Fever guard has become a star and a dividing line.

https://www.espn.co.uk/wnba/story/_/id/49306657/sophie-cunningham-finger-point-indiana-fever-wnba

JellySaurus · 13/08/2026 08:53

...she supports barrring transgender girls and women from girls' and women's sports.

I'm not clear on whether those are actually Sophie's words, but if the statement was ...she supports banning transgender males from girls' and women's sports, or ...she supports banning trans-identifying males from girls' and women's sports it would suddenly be a crystal-clear statement to every single 'I don't get all the fuss' person reading it.

No doubt TIMs etc would object to the wording, but that's purely because it makes everything so much clearer to call a spade a spade and not a forking spoon.

fromorbit · 13/08/2026 02:11

WBNA League taskforce still baffled about what is a woman question:

A WNBA task force of team presidents and general managers met Wednesday and discussed transgender athletes but did not arrive at any eligibility rules, according to a statement sent to ESPN by a league spokesperson.

In recent weeks, demonstrators have staged rallies for and against transgender inclusion at Indiana Fever games, after Fever guard Sophie Cunningham said in an ESPN article that she supports barring transgender girls and women from girls' and women's sports.

The league's statement Wednesday, in full, reads:
"Today's meeting covered a wide range of topics, including ongoing discussions on transgender athletes and the continued hate and vitriol directed at players online. We will continue to engage all league stakeholders in the coming weeks and months. We will approach these important conversations thoughtfully and in alignment with the values of our league. There are no immediate eligibility matters affecting the WNBA and we strongly denounce the bad-faith efforts to use these topics to demean or marginalize others."
https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/49594734/wnba-task-force-discusses-transgender-athletes-amid-furor

WNBA task force discusses transgender athletes amid furor

A task force of team presidents and general managers met Wednesday and discussed transgender athletes but did not arrive at any eligibility rules.

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/49594734/wnba-task-force-discusses-transgender-athletes-amid-furor

lechiffre55 · 12/08/2026 20:56

SirChenjins · 11/08/2026 21:58

He's really embracing his new found woman essence isn't he?! The absolutely brilliant thing is he's not saying anything that hasn't already been said on Planet TRA - he and the others are shining a great big spotlight onto the whole nonsense of men taking women's places in sport and showing it exactly for what it is.

I dunno. That's the first time I've heard fear of flying being an open symptom of latent transgenderism. I think they are breaking new ground. If nothing else these guys are being very creative in leaning in to this.

viques · 12/08/2026 09:06

If only he was still a man I would have his babies. 😪

JellySaurus · 12/08/2026 07:21

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 11/08/2026 23:08

Which Spanish soldiers out of interest?

Who could possibly have predicted this consequence of Spain legalising self-ID? 🤔

At least this is happening before US law has changed.

Spanish soldiers changing gender | Mumsnet

I...erm...what...? [[https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/05/spanish-soldiers-change-gender-benefits-for-women https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5022244-spanish-soldiers-changing-gender

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/08/2026 23:08

moto748e · 11/08/2026 22:58

They don't need to be all saints. They are making the point. And they're right to do so. Their motives are almost irrelevant. Like those Spanish soldiers (not that that did much good). Plus, it's funny! 😄

That's pretty much what I was saying.

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 11/08/2026 23:08

moto748e · 11/08/2026 22:58

They don't need to be all saints. They are making the point. And they're right to do so. Their motives are almost irrelevant. Like those Spanish soldiers (not that that did much good). Plus, it's funny! 😄

Which Spanish soldiers out of interest?

moto748e · 11/08/2026 22:58

They don't need to be all saints. They are making the point. And they're right to do so. Their motives are almost irrelevant. Like those Spanish soldiers (not that that did much good). Plus, it's funny! 😄

murasaki · 11/08/2026 22:27

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/08/2026 22:24

the good males are proving a point.

As is one bad male with a restraining order against him for abusing his wife and child. He's proving the point better than anyone else is. But let's not pretend that he's a "good male". He's doing this to assist his political ambitions. Bad people can do good things for bad reasons.

Bad people can also do good things for good reasons.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/08/2026 22:24

callmeLoretta1 · 11/08/2026 14:37

There are 28 trans athletes in one state alone. And you say 9 like it's no big deal. One, is ONE TOO MANY.

Misogynistic males are already taking the piss out of women's sport, and our spaces. By making it more blatantly obvious, the good males are proving a point. Any male, no matter how they identify, in women's sport or spaces is taking the piss. That's the entire point.

the good males are proving a point.

As is one bad male with a restraining order against him for abusing his wife and child. He's proving the point better than anyone else is. But let's not pretend that he's a "good male". He's doing this to assist his political ambitions. Bad people can do good things for bad reasons.

murasaki · 11/08/2026 22:22

SirChenjins · 11/08/2026 22:16

I think you'll find that she failed. Can we please give Royce the respect she deserves and use her correct pronouns?

🤭

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Whoops, mea culpa!

SirChenjins · 11/08/2026 22:16

murasaki · 11/08/2026 22:04

Dp said he'd failed by not giving it a 'girlfriend' with hand wave.

I struggled with whether this was a tad racist but in the end just laughed, given what Royce had already said.

I think you'll find that she failed. Can we please give Royce the respect she deserves and use her correct pronouns?

🤭

murasaki · 11/08/2026 22:04

Dp said he'd failed by not giving it a 'girlfriend' with hand wave.

I struggled with whether this was a tad racist but in the end just laughed, given what Royce had already said.

SirChenjins · 11/08/2026 21:58

He's really embracing his new found woman essence isn't he?! The absolutely brilliant thing is he's not saying anything that hasn't already been said on Planet TRA - he and the others are shining a great big spotlight onto the whole nonsense of men taking women's places in sport and showing it exactly for what it is.

nocoolnamesleft · 11/08/2026 21:43

fromorbit · 11/08/2026 20:29

White responds to demands he takeshormones.

Royce White 🇺🇸

Don't tell me how to be a Black woman! Taking hormones are optional. The idea that a Trans woman has to subject herself to BIG PHARMA, is just another way for cis normative people to turn us into a commodity. I’m an ALL NATURAL Black trans lesbian with a penile aesthetic.

Royce White for U.S. Senate MN 2026
WNBA #LetHerPlay

Brilliant. Though I doubt he, sorry she, will be able to come up with something so ludicrous that no trans identifying male has already said it.

MarieDeGournay · 11/08/2026 21:03

fromorbit · 11/08/2026 20:29

White responds to demands he takeshormones.

Royce White 🇺🇸

Don't tell me how to be a Black woman! Taking hormones are optional. The idea that a Trans woman has to subject herself to BIG PHARMA, is just another way for cis normative people to turn us into a commodity. I’m an ALL NATURAL Black trans lesbian with a penile aesthetic.

Royce White for U.S. Senate MN 2026
WNBA #LetHerPlay

He could also have gone down the 'We don't owe you femininity' route, like the TW who say that their beards, deep voices, male genitalia etc are no reason for them not to be 100% accepted as 100% women.
But what he said is funnierGrin

yoursweetpotatoesarebland · 11/08/2026 20:44

What a bloke 🤣

Boiledbeetle · 11/08/2026 20:42

fromorbit · 11/08/2026 20:29

White responds to demands he takeshormones.

Royce White 🇺🇸

Don't tell me how to be a Black woman! Taking hormones are optional. The idea that a Trans woman has to subject herself to BIG PHARMA, is just another way for cis normative people to turn us into a commodity. I’m an ALL NATURAL Black trans lesbian with a penile aesthetic.

Royce White for U.S. Senate MN 2026
WNBA #LetHerPlay

I’m an ALL NATURAL Black trans lesbian with a penile aesthetic.

Thierry Henry Smile GIF by hamlet
fromorbit · 11/08/2026 20:29

White responds to demands he takeshormones.

Royce White 🇺🇸

Don't tell me how to be a Black woman! Taking hormones are optional. The idea that a Trans woman has to subject herself to BIG PHARMA, is just another way for cis normative people to turn us into a commodity. I’m an ALL NATURAL Black trans lesbian with a penile aesthetic.

Royce White for U.S. Senate MN 2026
WNBA #LetHerPlay

Imdunfer · 11/08/2026 18:05

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 09/08/2026 15:11

There are no trans women in the WNBA. About nine trans athletes in high school teams in the whole USA.

But sure, let's allow misogynistic men take the piss out of women's sport. Let's declare trans people the real emergency, because who wants to discuss stuff like inequality of access and sponsorship, and widespread abuse by coaches, when we could have cis men showboating about how they're our saviours. How incredibly constructive.

The best way to save women's sport remains paying to attend it. Which everyone should because it's brilliant fun.

These men are not "taking the piss out of women's sport" and this is not a misogynistic act.

These men are standing up for women.