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SodThisHeadache · 06/08/2026 18:44

I really like KJK's analysis of Susie Green's TED talk. I can't find it though

Sealswimmer · 06/08/2026 18:55

Can we watch live from that link?

BruachAbhann · 06/08/2026 19:01

do you have to sign up and pay to watch it live?

Boiledbeetle · 06/08/2026 19:03

I'm already bored of Helen.

Boiledbeetle · 06/08/2026 19:05

I'm watching at speed x2 and it just about makes Helen talk at normal speech.

KJK. "It's just so much nonsense!"

ILikeDungs · 06/08/2026 19:09

So many times she has to "clear up his confusion".

Because it's nonsense!!

BruachAbhann · 06/08/2026 19:17

Boiledbeetle · 06/08/2026 19:03

I'm already bored of Helen.

She talks such an amount of crap!

WarriorN · 06/08/2026 19:17

I’ve listened to her carefully three times; she states that “your gender identity is set from birth or conception, we don’t really know.”

what absolute fucking twaddle

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/08/2026 19:18

Catching up as started late, listening to Webberley waffling nonsense 🥱

BruachAbhann · 06/08/2026 19:22

KJK seems good at trying to pin her down on what she's actually saying. I don't think she'll let her away with anything.

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spannasaurus · 06/08/2026 19:22

HW said that we don't have an age for medical consent in th UK and then when talking about Gillick she said a 16 year old would probably be able to consent under Gillick. That's not correct as a 16 year old is legally presumed to have capacity to consent and wouldn't need Gillick

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ILikeDungs · 06/08/2026 19:23

I need wine. OMG

murasaki · 06/08/2026 19:24

Did she say Gillick? Sorry, can't listen until later. She's out of date if so as I seem to recall it's called Fraser now as Victoria Gillick decided she didn't want her name attached to the case. Could be wrong, though.

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spannasaurus · 06/08/2026 19:29

murasaki · 06/08/2026 19:24

Did she say Gillick? Sorry, can't listen until later. She's out of date if so as I seem to recall it's called Fraser now as Victoria Gillick decided she didn't want her name attached to the case. Could be wrong, though.

Edited

NHS still calls it Gillick on their website

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BruachAbhann · 06/08/2026 19:29

HW didn't answer the question about puberty at all.

Boiledbeetle · 06/08/2026 19:30

God!!!

Helen talks such complete and utter bollocks!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/08/2026 19:39

Kellie sounds genuinely concerned, Webberley sounds fake.

BruachAbhann · 06/08/2026 19:39

such low blows by HW constantly:-)

BruachAbhann · 06/08/2026 19:40

BruachAbhann · 06/08/2026 19:39

such low blows by HW constantly:-)

It just makes her look ridiculous and childish, as well as that fact that she makes absolutely no sense.

WarriorN · 06/08/2026 19:42

At 14 mins Helen describes cases where drs have over ruled things for the best interests of the child. Gives the example of Jehovah’s witnesses. In a discussion about puberty blockers.

This is a total inverse and a complete twisting of the NORMAL application of “best interests” in medical ethics.

presumably using the suicide myth as leverage.

Then conflates with gillick.

Im going to look forward to the proper dissection of this by multiple people.

ILikeDungs · 06/08/2026 19:45

KK: Stop waffling, answer the question 😀

inkymoose · 06/08/2026 19:50

Boiledbeetle · 06/08/2026 19:03

I'm already bored of Helen.

I'm bored in advance and I haven't watched it yet. Helen Webberley is such a horrible creepy person. Sanctimonious, patronising, holier-than-thou, up herself, arrogant, bombastic and deeply unpleasant and manipulative in the way that she chooses to treat other people.

Boiledbeetle · 06/08/2026 19:52

I'm glad I watched it at fast speed. Nothing new from either side, but Helen doubled down on persuading people she is a charlatan and did a splendid job of that.

ETA loved that KJK just had a look on her face of "God this woman is thick"