Rape, assault and abuse in army college

Utterly grim.

That is just so gross. So these older men just set there year after year waiting for new female recruits for them to exploit and abuse.

I think I hadn't realised until seeing this article that this is a "teen" college.

As such you would have thought those in charge would have done more to ensure that the teenage men were better supervised.

Not that I think older men wouldn't also attack and rape women, but surely if they are all what, school leaving age, there would be better supervision.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2g8pe13x5o

That would make sense, yes. Though the BBC article does say of one attack, "The BBC understands Tilly reported the alleged rape to police but no charges were brought, partly because of what the Crown Prosecution Service later described as an "entirely inadequate" police investigation."

This is a thread from 2019
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3553245-Female-soldier-attacked-in-barracks-trigger-alert-sexual-assault

I heard an interview with one of the women and it was really upsetting.

But as others have said this is not new.

Year after year these assaults and worse on young women are reported. And the suicides.

But it doesn't change.

And whilst I think the Army itself is totally at fault what it does show is that generation after generation of young men are growing up thinking that they are entitled to behave like this.

Everyone knows that any "work place" or grouping that is primarily men soon has a culture of humiliating and abusing women. And those men who think it is wrong never report their "mates" to the authorities. Too many of them still seem to think men will be men.

If that is what they think they certainly if women are being encourage to join the army, then sadly it implies that they should not mix with the men.

I find it hard to believe that women are signing up, when they must have heard about the rape culture in the military.

This isn't new though is it? I can remember hearing about this type of behaviour over thirty years ago. It seems ingrained in the culture and there's a lack of willingness to do anything about it. I had a friend whose then husband was an instructor at the AFC, this was early 2000s, and the misogyny was quite evident. It appears little has changed.

If they did, they should have all female divisions. But men and women aren't likely to be conscripted in the near future anyway. What annoys me is the "men die in wars for their country" MRAs type. Women civilians die in wars too. And women will sign up to serve their country and then get assaulted, raped and shamed by their comrades at arms...

It’s why I find the idea of conscription of young women horrifying.

Needs shutting down and people need jailing, what an awful, awful place.

Yes
Of course the recruits are responsible for their actions as individuals but in that sort of a set up the whole culture depends on the people in charge. If the instructors are signalling that that sort of behaviour is OK it's going to continue and get worse. The instructors ignoring or even encouraging bad behaviour should be held responsible. Likewise anyone involved in covering up or not properly investigating rapes and sexual assaults.
I feel so sorry for the girls affected.

This is horrendous, those poor girls. All the worse because it's not just a few rogue male recruits - it's ignored and even encouraged by the instructors. And in many cases a lack of action by the police, of course. At least there have been some sent to jail, but it seems to be endemic.