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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The High Court has ruled against Sex Matters in their case against the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) and British Transport Police (BTP) over their “consensual” searching policies

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 31/07/2026 11:43

https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/challenging-the-shadow-strip-searching-regime/

Challenging the shadow strip-searching regime

The High Court has ruled against Sex Matters in our case against the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) and British Transport Police (BTP) over their

https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/challenging-the-shadow-strip-searching-regime/

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/08/2026 00:13

Whatdidyoujustcallme · 31/07/2026 22:19

As I said, this situation isn’t that common. Certainly not with strip searches. Less intrusive searches are wherever possible by same sex, but honestly, if you knew how few cops are now out there looking after us, the rare dodgy trans lady would not be on your radar. Despite the ‘uplift’ more officers have left and not been replaced than you could imagine. Ask for a ride along. Somewhere nice and busy. Anyone who isn’t a station cat has way too much to worry about out than someone trying to get a thrill from a search. And IF you are asked to search the opposite sex you can say no. This is such a non-issue. I would rather focus be given more to the millions of varying grades of domestic abuse and coercive control which are rampant and notoriously difficult to get through CPS. Or ditto for rape.

There’s no such thing as a “trans lady”, they’re just men. And yes some of them are very dodgy indeed, especially the ones who end up in prison, who are more likely than other men to be sex offenders.

Rightsraptor · 01/08/2026 20:01

Is this Mr Justice Linden the same one in Linzi Smith's case against Northumbria police taking part in Pride? I believe it is.

MashaPav · 02/08/2026 03:04

Excellent news, Sex Mattress is going to spin it to make it sound like they won I assume?

MashaPav · 02/08/2026 03:08

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/07/2026 20:00

This is my area. So our guidance is we can refuse to no detriment. I have been vocally GC in work for a while now, and a bit long in the tooth so no one would be pressuring me. My male colleagues are decent so it wouldn’t happen anyway. However I worry about young, new starts that may feel like they have to or they would be seen as bigoted.

We had a problematic TIM and I saw he had requested to be searched (a standard search) by two females (and this was granted). I would have liked to have been there to see the reasoning, how comfortable they were etc. It’s just a cursory search but still. I can’t see any females agreeing to strip search a TIM. None of my colleagues would.

The other side, yes it’s all on camera but the majority who come into custody are under the influence or have mental health issues. The trans people I’ve dealt with, both male and female, have all had mental health issues. What if they turn round and say ‘I didn’t have the capacity’ which would have detrimental effects on officers who were probably just trying to be kind.

The good thing though is our systems have been changed to ‘biological sex’ and not gender. I’ve been moaning about that for a while!

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If you’re not live action roleplaying a police officer I’d love to know your police ID so I can report you to the team which ensures “police” aren’t misusing social media to spread bigotry. But of course this will upset your live action roleplaying.

ItsCoolForCats · 02/08/2026 09:15

MashaPav · 02/08/2026 03:04

Excellent news, Sex Mattress is going to spin it to make it sound like they won I assume?

No, they have acknowledged how disappointed they are to lose such an important case, and they said they will appeal. Where have they ever spun things to say an outcome was different to what it was? I think you are getting confused and mixing them up with the Good Law Project.

Mmmnotsure · 02/08/2026 09:24

Apollo441 · 31/07/2026 23:42

Nothing to see, move long. Oh look a squirrel.

Yes, the "you should care about [these other things I am going to use to deflect] instead, women" squirrel.

So much wildlife.

Cailin66 · 02/08/2026 09:34

Forester1 · 31/07/2026 18:18

And yes very disappointing result

Quite the opposite. Better to lose at lower court and win on appeal to Higher court. Sure it’s costly.

If SM won at the lower court the law would not get settled.

It was Maya Forstater who lost at first instance but won on appeal which has been so important. From that loss and eventual win we have a great judgment and a ppwerful women’s rights activist in Maya. Plus we have Sex Matters.

borntobequiet · 02/08/2026 10:10

trans lady WTAF

Mmmnotsure · 02/08/2026 16:30

What about the men who on being arrested suddenly decide to say they are trans just for the lols?

SinnerBoy · 02/08/2026 22:31

OneGreyScroller · 31/07/2026 19:16

It says in the guidance that the individual being searched, the officer searching, and the custody sergeant will sign to say consent has been given. Custody suites are also on camera, so the consent will have been recorded. Hard to say you didn't give consent after all that.

Says someone who's never been arrested.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 02/08/2026 22:44

MashaPav · 02/08/2026 03:08

If you’re not live action roleplaying a police officer I’d love to know your police ID so I can report you to the team which ensures “police” aren’t misusing social media to spread bigotry. But of course this will upset your live action roleplaying.

Yawn.

moto748e · 02/08/2026 22:47

I suppose it's shift work.

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