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The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which Gosie returns to the trail

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Magpiecomplex · 27/07/2026 20:46

Next thread!

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EmpressaurusKitty · 29/07/2026 19:18

Of course not!

The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which Gosie returns to the trail
AsWithGlad · 29/07/2026 19:50

Yay, Boily! Knotty in a story! Not surprising, given the strong bond there is now between K&P and Maud.

But who’s looking after Tortie at Camp Bestival? (apologies, it’s a Woolly Hugs reference.) No wonder Tortie needs a winged guard of ducks.

AsWithGlad · 29/07/2026 19:51

I’m going to boil eggs for my tea now.
Do you think that will make the next chapter appear, if I step away from t’tinternet?

EmpressaurusKitty · 29/07/2026 19:53

AsWithGlad · 29/07/2026 19:51

I’m going to boil eggs for my tea now.
Do you think that will make the next chapter appear, if I step away from t’tinternet?

Maybe if you boil eggs and I hoover…

RumNotRun · 29/07/2026 19:53

EmpressaurusKitty · 29/07/2026 19:03

Boily was getting agitated, @MyrtleLion, so we’ve come to ask if you’re going to be long.

£330 for a nice smell???????

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Does Mr Walrus have a spare tooth on the table?

Thanks all for your support and suggestions with the workplace nutter. I think he's turned his attention to another department now!

Boiledbeetle · 29/07/2026 19:55

EmpressaurusKitty · 29/07/2026 19:53

Maybe if you boil eggs and I hoover…

I'm in need of a contemplative look at my navel for ten minutes. Maybe I should go do that now?

AngleofRepose · 29/07/2026 19:55

Yes, I'll stop by later for a quick drink, so maybe...story?

I have Some Stuff I need to do, including watering the potted plants. I read today that Wales is heading for its driest July in 190 years.

This is not good. I wish the Greens would get their act together. We need a new Environment Party.

Boiledbeetle · 29/07/2026 19:56

For fucks sake!

We are, in the main, women over 50, and here we are eagerly awaiting our bedtime story!

MyrtleLion · 29/07/2026 20:15

EmpressaurusKitty · 29/07/2026 19:03

Boily was getting agitated, @MyrtleLion, so we’ve come to ask if you’re going to be long.

£330 for a nice smell???????

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The Walrus is drunk in the corner of the sofa. We’re watching Top of the Pops Biggest Hits 2002.

New chapter will be up within 15 minutes.

You can send Boiledbeetle the heavies home.

EmpressaurusKitty · 29/07/2026 20:15

I’ve hoovered & done tonight’s Norwegian Duolingo.

I’m going to do a couple of rows on the new blanket.

Boiledbeetle · 29/07/2026 20:18

MyrtleLion · 29/07/2026 20:15

The Walrus is drunk in the corner of the sofa. We’re watching Top of the Pops Biggest Hits 2002.

New chapter will be up within 15 minutes.

You can send Boiledbeetle the heavies home.

<Huffs>

I'm busy now until about 9.30 pm.

Grrrrrr.

MyrtleLion · 29/07/2026 20:19

Magpiecomplex · 29/07/2026 19:07

What was it? I've just bought a bottle of a perfume called Absolute Filth.

Creed Delphinus

https://www.creedfragrances.co.uk/products/delphinus?variant=49523300860214

I’ve checked other sites and it is cheaper at John Lewis.

Magpiecomplex · 29/07/2026 20:26

MyrtleLion · 29/07/2026 20:19

Creed Delphinus

https://www.creedfragrances.co.uk/products/delphinus?variant=49523300860214

I’ve checked other sites and it is cheaper at John Lewis.

Thanks. At that price I was guessing either Creed or Amouage.

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MyrtleLion · 29/07/2026 20:33

Ripon

In which one visit turns out not to have been enough…

The symbol was in the nave.

Not hidden, exactly. Worked into the leading of a window she had walked straight past on her first visit, three diagonal lines crossing a circle, sitting quietly above a scene of some minor saint doing something charitable with loaves.

Gosie looked at it for a long moment.

Ripon had been chapter house number thirty-seven. She had spent two hours in it and found nothing, because the fragment said Chapter House Window Preservation Fund, and Gosie was, if nothing else, a gerbil who read instructions carefully. It had not occurred to her that the Margrave, moving money through Talmere, might be funding glass anywhere a cathedral had glass worth having — not only in chapter houses, which just happened to be where the trail had started.

“Idiot,” she said, without much feeling, the way one might note a spelling error.

She got out her notebook and crossed through Ripon — No with a single decisive line, and wrote beneath it: Ripon — nave, west end, restoration date unclear, ask.
Then she went to find whoever was in charge of asking.

Ripon Cathedral’s conservation officer was called Rosalind, and unlike Judith, she did not have a filing cabinet so much as an entire room, floor to ceiling, with box files labelled in a hand that had clearly given up on being read by anyone but herself.

“The nave glass,” Rosalind said, “went through in stages. Bit of a Frankenstein’s monster, if I’m honest. Different funders, different decades. What are you after specifically?”

“The most recent restoration. Within the last five years, possibly less.”

Rosalind didn’t need to check anything. “That’ll be the Talmere panel. Nice bit of work, very sympathetic to the original glazing. Glazier who did it barely touched the surrounding lead, you’d never know unless you were looking.”

“Was that through their own charitable foundation?”

“No.” Rosalind was already pulling a box down. “That one came through a private foundation, same as their usual arrangement. Don’t ask me the name, it’s never on anything. Just ‘on behalf of’.” She found the sheet and turned it round for Gosie to read.

Gosie read it twice. Same wording as Durham. Same structure entirely: Talmere as the visible hand, a private foundation as the invisible one, no name attached to either the glass or the money.

She sat with the notebook open for some time after Rosalind had gone back to her boxes.

The pattern she had built the whole search around, chapter houses only, because the fragment said chapter house, had just collapsed. If the Margrave’s money went wherever the glass was worth having, then thirty-six other chapter-house dead ends might not be dead ends at all. They might simply be the wrong room.

She thought of Wells. She thought of Canterbury, Lichfield, Salisbury, the locked one in Lincolnshire that had never answered its phone. She thought, with a small and specific unhappiness, of Worcester.

So many cathedrals, and she had only ever looked in one room of each.

“This,” she said to no one, “is going to take longer than I thought.”

Rosalind, who had apparently not gone as far back to her boxes as Gosie assumed, said, “Longer than what?”

Gosie considered how much of this was explicable to a conservation officer with no reason to care, and then she wondered if there was another connection to the restoration at Durham Cathedral.

Rosalind looked faintly surprised to be asked, in the way of someone who assumed nobody else found this interesting. She pulled the file back down and flipped through it. “Conservator of record was a workshop, not an individual. Fenhurst and Rhys. Cambridgeshire, I think, though they travel for work like this.”

“Would they have done Durham as well?”

“Couldn’t tell you. But if you’re after very good, very accurate stained glass conservation, there aren’t many workshops in the country capable of it.” Rosalind closed the file. “These are the best.”

Gosie wrote the name down and underlined it, which she did not often do.

Thirty-six cathedrals had seemed, a moment ago, like thirty-six more weeks. A workshop was one address, one register of past commissions, one considerably shorter list.

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/3-ripon

The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which Gosie returns to the trail
MyrtleLion · 29/07/2026 20:37

Magpiecomplex · 29/07/2026 20:26

Thanks. At that price I was guessing either Creed or Amouage.

It did smell gorgeous.

EmpressaurusKitty · 29/07/2026 20:48

Thank you Myrtle!

I wouldn’t have put it past Boily to come & sit on your sofa.

EmpressaurusKitty · 29/07/2026 20:56

How’s Maud going to catch Gosie up???

ShinyBlueTractor · 29/07/2026 20:58

MyrtleLion · 29/07/2026 20:33

Ripon

In which one visit turns out not to have been enough…

The symbol was in the nave.

Not hidden, exactly. Worked into the leading of a window she had walked straight past on her first visit, three diagonal lines crossing a circle, sitting quietly above a scene of some minor saint doing something charitable with loaves.

Gosie looked at it for a long moment.

Ripon had been chapter house number thirty-seven. She had spent two hours in it and found nothing, because the fragment said Chapter House Window Preservation Fund, and Gosie was, if nothing else, a gerbil who read instructions carefully. It had not occurred to her that the Margrave, moving money through Talmere, might be funding glass anywhere a cathedral had glass worth having — not only in chapter houses, which just happened to be where the trail had started.

“Idiot,” she said, without much feeling, the way one might note a spelling error.

She got out her notebook and crossed through Ripon — No with a single decisive line, and wrote beneath it: Ripon — nave, west end, restoration date unclear, ask.
Then she went to find whoever was in charge of asking.

Ripon Cathedral’s conservation officer was called Rosalind, and unlike Judith, she did not have a filing cabinet so much as an entire room, floor to ceiling, with box files labelled in a hand that had clearly given up on being read by anyone but herself.

“The nave glass,” Rosalind said, “went through in stages. Bit of a Frankenstein’s monster, if I’m honest. Different funders, different decades. What are you after specifically?”

“The most recent restoration. Within the last five years, possibly less.”

Rosalind didn’t need to check anything. “That’ll be the Talmere panel. Nice bit of work, very sympathetic to the original glazing. Glazier who did it barely touched the surrounding lead, you’d never know unless you were looking.”

“Was that through their own charitable foundation?”

“No.” Rosalind was already pulling a box down. “That one came through a private foundation, same as their usual arrangement. Don’t ask me the name, it’s never on anything. Just ‘on behalf of’.” She found the sheet and turned it round for Gosie to read.

Gosie read it twice. Same wording as Durham. Same structure entirely: Talmere as the visible hand, a private foundation as the invisible one, no name attached to either the glass or the money.

She sat with the notebook open for some time after Rosalind had gone back to her boxes.

The pattern she had built the whole search around, chapter houses only, because the fragment said chapter house, had just collapsed. If the Margrave’s money went wherever the glass was worth having, then thirty-six other chapter-house dead ends might not be dead ends at all. They might simply be the wrong room.

She thought of Wells. She thought of Canterbury, Lichfield, Salisbury, the locked one in Lincolnshire that had never answered its phone. She thought, with a small and specific unhappiness, of Worcester.

So many cathedrals, and she had only ever looked in one room of each.

“This,” she said to no one, “is going to take longer than I thought.”

Rosalind, who had apparently not gone as far back to her boxes as Gosie assumed, said, “Longer than what?”

Gosie considered how much of this was explicable to a conservation officer with no reason to care, and then she wondered if there was another connection to the restoration at Durham Cathedral.

Rosalind looked faintly surprised to be asked, in the way of someone who assumed nobody else found this interesting. She pulled the file back down and flipped through it. “Conservator of record was a workshop, not an individual. Fenhurst and Rhys. Cambridgeshire, I think, though they travel for work like this.”

“Would they have done Durham as well?”

“Couldn’t tell you. But if you’re after very good, very accurate stained glass conservation, there aren’t many workshops in the country capable of it.” Rosalind closed the file. “These are the best.”

Gosie wrote the name down and underlined it, which she did not often do.

Thirty-six cathedrals had seemed, a moment ago, like thirty-six more weeks. A workshop was one address, one register of past commissions, one considerably shorter list.

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/3-ripon

Edited

It appears I've popped into the Bluey at the perfect time to get a story! Fabulous!

Thanks @MyrtleLion! That was a great chapter, much to be intrigued by... 🤩

EdithStourton · 29/07/2026 21:00

I wish I was like Gosie ad knew what I'd written in my notebook...
Thank you for the chapter, Myrtle.

EdithStourton · 29/07/2026 21:07

MyrtleLion · 29/07/2026 20:37

It did smell gorgeous.

A friend of mine has the most wonderful aftershave, of which I breathe in lungfuls whenever I give him a lift, which I do most weeks. I did ask him once what it was, but I've forgotten.

ShinyBlueTractor · 29/07/2026 21:09

Tiny victory corner.
I lost the charging cable for my watch, last seen on a work trip last week.
Annoying!
My last hope was it was maybe still in the suitcase, which I'd emptied and put back up high in the wardrobe when I got back.
Up I clambered, down the case came, and huzzah! There it was!
So my watch can now stop banging on relentlessly about its low battery 😅phew.... (I was starting to feel guilty...)

MarieDeGournay · 29/07/2026 21:10

Myrtle, what a fascinating subject - stained glass windows! This promises to be a really really intriguing story, with very lovely illustrations💙

ErrolTheDragon · 29/07/2026 21:16

Ripon is the only cathedral I’ve walked around at 4am with an elderly dachshund.

Magpiecomplex · 29/07/2026 21:18

ErrolTheDragon · 29/07/2026 21:16

Ripon is the only cathedral I’ve walked around at 4am with an elderly dachshund.

Which is of course the absolute best way to appreciate ecclesiastical architecture.

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MyrtleLion · 29/07/2026 21:34

MarieDeGournay · 29/07/2026 21:10

Myrtle, what a fascinating subject - stained glass windows! This promises to be a really really intriguing story, with very lovely illustrations💙

Thank you!

I’m enjoying the intrigue myself.