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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which Gosie returns to the trail

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Magpiecomplex · 27/07/2026 20:46

Next thread!

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FuzzyPuffling · 04/08/2026 19:40

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 19:34

I can mention you again, but I suspect you'll lead Gosie on another Magical Mystery Tour and she still won't find you...

No worries, I've spent my life being invisible.

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 19:45

Looked them up.

Jeg må finne skjæra og lundefuglen min (I have to find my magpie and puffin).

ErrolTheDragon · 04/08/2026 19:46

FuzzyPuffling · 04/08/2026 19:40

No worries, I've spent my life being invisible.

You’re not invisible in the Bluey.❤️

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 19:47

ErrolTheDragon · 04/08/2026 19:46

You’re not invisible in the Bluey.❤️

Definitely not 💙. Although it would be a fantastic superpower to be invisible on command.

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EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 19:49

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 19:47

Definitely not 💙. Although it would be a fantastic superpower to be invisible on command.

Cats can do that already.

ChristmasStars · 04/08/2026 20:00

Nice episode @MyrtleLion and I am right with Fenella in her appreciation of good stationery.

FuzzyPuffling · 04/08/2026 20:10

Cat and I are watching Sewing Bee. Well, I am.

The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which Gosie returns to the trail
NotAtMyAge · 04/08/2026 20:13

FuzzyPuffling · 04/08/2026 19:10

But no puffins, as i seem to have vanished, pre the American episode, some months ago.
I expect I'm faffing about on the vast Atlantic.

Along with me and the Viking oarswomen and their longboat. 😉

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 20:22

I've just put the bins out and discovered both of the local tabby and white cats on surveillance duty. One shot out from under my car, leaving me wondering if I was imagining the second, but no, that one was still sitting watching me.

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FuzzyPuffling · 04/08/2026 20:29

NotAtMyAge · 04/08/2026 20:13

Along with me and the Viking oarswomen and their longboat. 😉

We're all partying on the high seas. Another fish NotAtMyAge?

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 20:30

One of my friends has a tabby & white tom. He considers it his duty to escort her to the end of the street whenever she’s going out & seems to take it very seriously.

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 20:31

NotAtMyAge · 04/08/2026 20:13

Along with me and the Viking oarswomen and their longboat. 😉

I feel a saga coming on. In the proper oral tradition, of course. The story of Not and Fuzzy and the Viking oarswomen finding their way back to civilisation.

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JanesLittleGirl · 04/08/2026 20:47

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 20:31

I feel a saga coming on. In the proper oral tradition, of course. The story of Not and Fuzzy and the Viking oarswomen finding their way back to civilisation.

I read this and immediately thought of the Saga of Noggin the Nog. Christ, that was boring.

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 20:48

There was a woman named Not, daughter of Thord, who was neither large of stature nor swift of foot, but possessed a mind as sharp as cold iron. With her fared a sea-bird’s chick—a puffling, round and covered in soft down, which Not carried in the breast of her woolen kirtle and called Snorri.
They had been driven far west into the Hafgerðingar, the great ocean-swells where no land is seen, after a gale snapped their steering-oar. Their vessel was a longboat of twenty oars, ridden by serious women of the Vík who spoke little and worked much. At the forward bench sat Astrid the Deep-Minded, whose gaze could split timber, and behind her pulled nineteen oarswomen of the Fjord-Settle, their arms corded like hawser-rope and their faces salt-crusted.
Food was scarce, and water scarcer. On the fifth morning, the sun rose like a red shield over the gray waters. Astrid stood at the prow, her hand shading her brow.
"We row into the maw of Rán," said Astrid. "The wind is dead, and the stars offer no council by day."
Not stepped from the stern-board, her mantle tucked tight. From her kirtle poked the black head of the puffling, her beak bright as rowan-berries.
"The bird knows the way," Not said. "Snorri was taken from a burrow on the cliffs of Vestmanna. Her belly is light, and her heart craves the high turf."
The oarswomen paused, their blades dripping quiet silver into the trough. Helga, who sat at the waist, spat over the gunwale. "We are guided by a ball of fluff and a woman named after nothing?"
"Names do not row boats, Helga, but eyes see what ocean-gods hide," Not replied.
She lifted the puffling into the palm of her hand and held her above the gunwale. The bird stretched her tiny, downy wings, turned her head thrice against the salt breeze, and leaned resolutely toward the south-southeast, chirping a thin, dry note.
"There lies the herring-run," said Not. "Where the herring swim, the fowlers gather."
Astrid looked from the bird to the flat horizon, then turned to her crew. "Put your shoulders to the ash. We follow the chick."
For two days the women pulled without song, their breath rising together like the steam from hot springs. Not sat at the helm-possession, binding a spare spar to the tiller-head with wet rawhide. When the bird preened toward the port side, Not shifted the beam; when she slept against Not's ribs, the course was held true.
On the third evening, as the light turned violet, Snorri fluttered from Not’s lap to the gunwale, piping loudly. A thick mist rolled over the swell, smelling no longer of deep brine, but of wet basalt and rotting kelp.
Through the fog came the heavy, drum-like thud of surf breaking against stone. Astrid stood, her iron spear clinking against the ribs of the boat. The mist parted, revealing the black teeth of the southern firths and the smoke of turf-fires rising into the dusk.
The women pulled the boat high onto the shingle, their iron-shod boots crunching in the gravel. They had returned to the lands of men, brought through the trackless waste by a woman of quiet words and a bird no larger than a fist.

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Bergamotte · 04/08/2026 20:53

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 19:45

Looked them up.

Jeg må finne skjæra og lundefuglen min (I have to find my magpie and puffin).

Aw, I read your last post and was excited to suggest "sea parrot" (søpapegøje) for puffin.

Then I saw this post and was disappointed to learn that this is one of the words where Norwegian differs significantly from Danish.

Then I checked my dictionary and saw that "lunde" is an alternative option for puffin. So
A: presumably Norwegians call puffins "puffin birds" which is very cute
B: that means a street I once lived on could plausibly be translated as "Puffin-valley Street" which makes me happy!

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 20:56

Bergamotte · 04/08/2026 20:53

Aw, I read your last post and was excited to suggest "sea parrot" (søpapegøje) for puffin.

Then I saw this post and was disappointed to learn that this is one of the words where Norwegian differs significantly from Danish.

Then I checked my dictionary and saw that "lunde" is an alternative option for puffin. So
A: presumably Norwegians call puffins "puffin birds" which is very cute
B: that means a street I once lived on could plausibly be translated as "Puffin-valley Street" which makes me happy!

Puffin-valley Street has to be the location of an animated children's programme!

I also love the idea of Fuzzy being a sea parrot 💙

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FuzzyPuffling · 04/08/2026 20:57

Bergamotte · 04/08/2026 20:53

Aw, I read your last post and was excited to suggest "sea parrot" (søpapegøje) for puffin.

Then I saw this post and was disappointed to learn that this is one of the words where Norwegian differs significantly from Danish.

Then I checked my dictionary and saw that "lunde" is an alternative option for puffin. So
A: presumably Norwegians call puffins "puffin birds" which is very cute
B: that means a street I once lived on could plausibly be translated as "Puffin-valley Street" which makes me happy!

Lundy island off the coast of north Devon means " Puffin Island". It has lots of puffins!

JanesLittleGirl · 04/08/2026 20:57

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 20:48

There was a woman named Not, daughter of Thord, who was neither large of stature nor swift of foot, but possessed a mind as sharp as cold iron. With her fared a sea-bird’s chick—a puffling, round and covered in soft down, which Not carried in the breast of her woolen kirtle and called Snorri.
They had been driven far west into the Hafgerðingar, the great ocean-swells where no land is seen, after a gale snapped their steering-oar. Their vessel was a longboat of twenty oars, ridden by serious women of the Vík who spoke little and worked much. At the forward bench sat Astrid the Deep-Minded, whose gaze could split timber, and behind her pulled nineteen oarswomen of the Fjord-Settle, their arms corded like hawser-rope and their faces salt-crusted.
Food was scarce, and water scarcer. On the fifth morning, the sun rose like a red shield over the gray waters. Astrid stood at the prow, her hand shading her brow.
"We row into the maw of Rán," said Astrid. "The wind is dead, and the stars offer no council by day."
Not stepped from the stern-board, her mantle tucked tight. From her kirtle poked the black head of the puffling, her beak bright as rowan-berries.
"The bird knows the way," Not said. "Snorri was taken from a burrow on the cliffs of Vestmanna. Her belly is light, and her heart craves the high turf."
The oarswomen paused, their blades dripping quiet silver into the trough. Helga, who sat at the waist, spat over the gunwale. "We are guided by a ball of fluff and a woman named after nothing?"
"Names do not row boats, Helga, but eyes see what ocean-gods hide," Not replied.
She lifted the puffling into the palm of her hand and held her above the gunwale. The bird stretched her tiny, downy wings, turned her head thrice against the salt breeze, and leaned resolutely toward the south-southeast, chirping a thin, dry note.
"There lies the herring-run," said Not. "Where the herring swim, the fowlers gather."
Astrid looked from the bird to the flat horizon, then turned to her crew. "Put your shoulders to the ash. We follow the chick."
For two days the women pulled without song, their breath rising together like the steam from hot springs. Not sat at the helm-possession, binding a spare spar to the tiller-head with wet rawhide. When the bird preened toward the port side, Not shifted the beam; when she slept against Not's ribs, the course was held true.
On the third evening, as the light turned violet, Snorri fluttered from Not’s lap to the gunwale, piping loudly. A thick mist rolled over the swell, smelling no longer of deep brine, but of wet basalt and rotting kelp.
Through the fog came the heavy, drum-like thud of surf breaking against stone. Astrid stood, her iron spear clinking against the ribs of the boat. The mist parted, revealing the black teeth of the southern firths and the smoke of turf-fires rising into the dusk.
The women pulled the boat high onto the shingle, their iron-shod boots crunching in the gravel. They had returned to the lands of men, brought through the trackless waste by a woman of quiet words and a bird no larger than a fist.

Where were you when BBC was producing NtN? That's awesome.

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 20:58

JanesLittleGirl · 04/08/2026 20:57

Where were you when BBC was producing NtN? That's awesome.

I can't take credit, it's just Gemini!

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Bergamotte · 04/08/2026 21:00

FuzzyPuffling · 04/08/2026 20:57

Lundy island off the coast of north Devon means " Puffin Island". It has lots of puffins!

Ooo!

(There were no puffins on my street, but there were very frequently herons, and sometimes coots)

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 21:07

I wondered if there was a connection!

MarieDeGournay · 04/08/2026 21:13

"We row into the maw of Rán," said Astrid. "The wind is dead, and the stars offer no council by day."
"We are guided by a ball of fluff and a woman named after nothing?"
"Where the herring swim, the fowlers gather." [spoken like a Norse Eric Cantona!]

Thank you for this, Magpie and Gemini, it is absolutely brilliant😂

I'm starting to feel a bit disturbed that AI can be so damned clever, in a way that we used to be when we were students and did things like re-write the weather forecast in the style of Gertrude Stein, and then Hemingway, and then Joyce/Finnegans Wake, and then somebody doing Celtic Studies would put it into Old Irish...
The kind of things I couldn't do in a trillion years now. But AI can😕

When I think back on my youth, it feels so packed and busy and creative and wordy and full-on - we always had something 'on the go', always had something to say..

The Pet Shop Boys captured it so well in We Were Never Being Boring
We were never being boring
We had too much time to find for ourselves
And we were never being boring
We dressed up and fought, then thought, "Make amends"
And we were never holding back or worried that
Time would come to an end.

AngleofRepose · 04/08/2026 21:19

FuzzyPuffling · 04/08/2026 20:57

Lundy island off the coast of north Devon means " Puffin Island". It has lots of puffins!

Fuzzy, my first thought then was Lundy Island!

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 21:36

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 20:58

I can't take credit, it's just Gemini!

It's still fantastic! Your prompt must be amazing.

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 21:37

MarieDeGournay · 04/08/2026 21:13

"We row into the maw of Rán," said Astrid. "The wind is dead, and the stars offer no council by day."
"We are guided by a ball of fluff and a woman named after nothing?"
"Where the herring swim, the fowlers gather." [spoken like a Norse Eric Cantona!]

Thank you for this, Magpie and Gemini, it is absolutely brilliant😂

I'm starting to feel a bit disturbed that AI can be so damned clever, in a way that we used to be when we were students and did things like re-write the weather forecast in the style of Gertrude Stein, and then Hemingway, and then Joyce/Finnegans Wake, and then somebody doing Celtic Studies would put it into Old Irish...
The kind of things I couldn't do in a trillion years now. But AI can😕

When I think back on my youth, it feels so packed and busy and creative and wordy and full-on - we always had something 'on the go', always had something to say..

The Pet Shop Boys captured it so well in We Were Never Being Boring
We were never being boring
We had too much time to find for ourselves
And we were never being boring
We dressed up and fought, then thought, "Make amends"
And we were never holding back or worried that
Time would come to an end.

You picked up the lines I thought were good, though I think council should be counsel.

And I remember we were imaginative, investigative and sometimes bored, but that's when the best stuff happened.