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The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which Gosie returns to the trail

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Magpiecomplex · 27/07/2026 20:46

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EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 17:13

No rain in Wesf London ☹️

AngleofRepose · 04/08/2026 17:15

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 17:13

No rain in Wesf London ☹️

Well that's just... wrong, somehow. No more rain here, either, bright sunshine again.

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 17:17

I'm going to catch up with this thread and others on MN and then post Gosie's latest adventures. Dinner is in an hour, so it should be before then

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 17:23

AngleofRepose · 04/08/2026 14:48

I am determined to have an apple tree someday! I would plant one here, if I thought I were staying. As it is, I scrounge off neighbors and Freecycle, as much as I can, as long as it's not too far to drive. During apple season, it just feels beyond silly to buy apples when so many people have a glut.

I don't mind cooking apples, as I mainly use them for crumble through the winter months.

Next door has apples, and they land on our patio, even though we have cut nearly all the branches off at the boundary. The problem is, they are all wormy. So I don't think I want to eat them.

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 17:28

And I'm sorry if this is upsetting, but I LOVE the heat.

Currently at night I am wearing cotton scrubs as pyjamas and socks and I am under a thin waffle blanket with a cotton American quilt (so quite thin) folded over twice on top of the blanket. There is a fan on, and I get cold.

If it's too humid I really don't like it, but I am very much enjoying this summer.

JanesLittleGirl · 04/08/2026 17:42

God! I had forgotten just how much London stinks when it gets the first summer rain after a long dry spell.

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 17:57

9. Conversations

In which Gosie has rather a lot to report...

The first thing Gosie saw on coming through the door was Graphic, bent low over a sheet of Bluestocking notepaper with a fine-liner in one paw, three more pens lined up beside her in different inks, deep green, a burnished gold, a blue dark enough to pass for black until the light caught it. The sheet already held the beginnings of something that looked less like a letter and more like a small, very deliberate piece of art, ivy worked along one margin in the green, a compass rose taking shape in the corner picked out in gold, the crooked little crest at the top left untouched, worked around rather than over, as though even improving on Galley and Gutter’s printing would have felt like a step too far.

“We’re writing to Fenella again,” said @ChristmasStars, before Gosie had said anything at all.

“I didn’t know that was decided.”

“It wasn’t, particularly. It just seemed obvious once we talked about it. She liked the notepaper. So we thought, more of that, only better.” Christmas Stars nodded at Graphic’s work with the satisfaction of someone who considered the matter settled. “It’s not going to say anything different from before. It’s just going to look considerably harder to put down.”

Gosie left them to it and let herself be drawn further into the room, where the evening had reached the stage where several conversations were happening at once and nobody minded that they overlapped. Gosie had barely got her coat off before Gantry had her notebook out again, and by the time tea arrived Gosie had an audience arranged around her in the manner of people who had learned that Gosie’s news was usually worth interrupting an argument for.

She told them about Brennard and Vye first, because it was the part she understood least and wanted rid of. The steady years of quiet commissions. The sudden silence. Norwich Cathedral as the last confirmed piece of work, finished and delivered, and then nothing since, until, apparently, now.

“Nothing since,” said @Hedgehogforshort, “until now.”

“That’s what Gemma Glasswing said. Workshop after workshop getting the same enquiry. Nobody confirmed yet. Just the asking.”

Hedgehog set down her cup with the particular care of someone who had just heard a fact rearrange several other facts behind her eyes. “So whatever it was, stopped, and now it’s starting again.”

“That was my thought.”

Christmas Stars looked up from the half finished letter still sitting on the table beside Graphic’s inks. “Well,” she said, “that settles what we’re asking Fenella.”

Gosie looked at her.

“Whether anyone’s been round asking after her availability,” said Christmas Stars. “Same as the other workshop. If they need this much glass, they’ll have gone to more than one place for it.”

Gosie told them about Norwich Cathedral next, and here she was more careful, because she still wasn’t sure how much of it meant anything. The roundel. The symbol worked into the border. Glossy, who had been hovering since the word Norwich, held out a paw for the camera before Gosie had finished the sentence, and vanished toward the darkroom she kept through the door behind the bar, the one nobody else was allowed to use the good chemicals in.

And then, because Hedgehog was looking at her in the way that meant she wasn’t going to let it go unmentioned, Gosie mentioned the discrepancy.

"@EdithStourton noticed it, not me. Said the circle was out of true, just in one small place. The rest of it machine pressed, clean as anything. That one bit wasn’t.”

“Wasn’t what,” said @AngleofRepose, not looking up from the atlas, which had reappeared on the table sometime between the tea and the toast.

“I don’t know. Just wrong. Different, somehow, from the rest of the mark.”

Angle turned a page without any particular urgency. “Worth remembering,” she said, which from Angle counted as considerable enthusiasm, and went back to whatever she was cross-referencing.

It was @Boiledbeetle who spoke next, from her position half under the table where she had been quietly working through a plate of Tunnocks Teacakes that nobody remembered giving her.

“Well, obviously,” she said, through a mouthful of marshmallow, “they thought they’d finished.”

“Finished what?” said Hedgehog.

“Aurelia. That’s why the workshops went quiet. They were close. Days away, maybe less, and then you lot went and took the one thing they still needed.”

“So it wasn’t finished?” said Hedgehog.

“Wasn’t then. Isn’t now, unless they’ve been very quick about it.” Boily reached for another teacake. “But you forced Customs to seize the last few consignments they needed, and workshops don’t start quietly asking around for new work unless somebody still wants something built.”

“Of course,” said Hedgehog. “The project in Portland. Days away from completion, and we stopped it.”

“They still want it done,” said Boily. “So they still need the stuff. Seeds. Maps. Ledgers. Stonework. Glass, evidently. Whatever they lost, they’ll need it again, one way or another.”

Glossy had already pinned the Norwich prints up beside the other photographs on the wall, the roundel enlarged twice over, the symbol in the border blown up bigger still, and it was Graft who saw them first.

She got up and crossed the room without excusing herself. Grind followed, because Grind generally did.

“That’s the glass from the yacht,” Graft said. “The crate we opened. I’d know that cut anywhere, and that blue.” She looked at Grind. “Same panes.”

“Same panes,” Grind agreed, with the flat certainty of someone confirming a measurement rather than offering an opinion.

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/9-conversations

The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which Gosie returns to the trail
EdithStourton · 04/08/2026 18:08

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 17:28

And I'm sorry if this is upsetting, but I LOVE the heat.

Currently at night I am wearing cotton scrubs as pyjamas and socks and I am under a thin waffle blanket with a cotton American quilt (so quite thin) folded over twice on top of the blanket. There is a fan on, and I get cold.

If it's too humid I really don't like it, but I am very much enjoying this summer.

I too love the heat. I spent too many years in Forrin Parts where, as well as numerous species of venomous snake, sundry venomous spiders and the possibility (which, depending on where we were living, ran from 'perfectly possible' to 'highly unlikely') of some large predator coming into the garden, there was Heat. Lots of it. 24.5C in our living room at the moment, which is just about perfect.

I do, however, currently have rain envy. We've had 15 minutes of that strong wind that rises suddenly and generally presages rain, but the sun is still shining. We could very much do with a downpour. Some of the trees (birches, field maples and sycamores in particular) have in the past week really started to show signs of stress.

Now for the latest Gosie...

EdithStourton · 04/08/2026 18:11

Oooh... the plot thickens!

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 18:14

It hadn’t occurred to me before to wonder if the Margrave / Talmere knew that the Bluey had blocked them, or if they thought it was just bad luck.

AngleofRepose · 04/08/2026 18:19

Do they know?!

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 18:21

AngleofRepose · 04/08/2026 18:19

Do they know?!

I suspect they will soon, if they don't already!

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AngleofRepose · 04/08/2026 18:22

I love that I'm always looking at an atlas 😁Sounds just like me!

I also love that Gosie is using a film camera, which I also still have (and use rarely). Real film processing and real prints!

DauntlessDamson · 04/08/2026 18:30

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 17:57

9. Conversations

In which Gosie has rather a lot to report...

The first thing Gosie saw on coming through the door was Graphic, bent low over a sheet of Bluestocking notepaper with a fine-liner in one paw, three more pens lined up beside her in different inks, deep green, a burnished gold, a blue dark enough to pass for black until the light caught it. The sheet already held the beginnings of something that looked less like a letter and more like a small, very deliberate piece of art, ivy worked along one margin in the green, a compass rose taking shape in the corner picked out in gold, the crooked little crest at the top left untouched, worked around rather than over, as though even improving on Galley and Gutter’s printing would have felt like a step too far.

“We’re writing to Fenella again,” said @ChristmasStars, before Gosie had said anything at all.

“I didn’t know that was decided.”

“It wasn’t, particularly. It just seemed obvious once we talked about it. She liked the notepaper. So we thought, more of that, only better.” Christmas Stars nodded at Graphic’s work with the satisfaction of someone who considered the matter settled. “It’s not going to say anything different from before. It’s just going to look considerably harder to put down.”

Gosie left them to it and let herself be drawn further into the room, where the evening had reached the stage where several conversations were happening at once and nobody minded that they overlapped. Gosie had barely got her coat off before Gantry had her notebook out again, and by the time tea arrived Gosie had an audience arranged around her in the manner of people who had learned that Gosie’s news was usually worth interrupting an argument for.

She told them about Brennard and Vye first, because it was the part she understood least and wanted rid of. The steady years of quiet commissions. The sudden silence. Norwich Cathedral as the last confirmed piece of work, finished and delivered, and then nothing since, until, apparently, now.

“Nothing since,” said @Hedgehogforshort, “until now.”

“That’s what Gemma Glasswing said. Workshop after workshop getting the same enquiry. Nobody confirmed yet. Just the asking.”

Hedgehog set down her cup with the particular care of someone who had just heard a fact rearrange several other facts behind her eyes. “So whatever it was, stopped, and now it’s starting again.”

“That was my thought.”

Christmas Stars looked up from the half finished letter still sitting on the table beside Graphic’s inks. “Well,” she said, “that settles what we’re asking Fenella.”

Gosie looked at her.

“Whether anyone’s been round asking after her availability,” said Christmas Stars. “Same as the other workshop. If they need this much glass, they’ll have gone to more than one place for it.”

Gosie told them about Norwich Cathedral next, and here she was more careful, because she still wasn’t sure how much of it meant anything. The roundel. The symbol worked into the border. Glossy, who had been hovering since the word Norwich, held out a paw for the camera before Gosie had finished the sentence, and vanished toward the darkroom she kept through the door behind the bar, the one nobody else was allowed to use the good chemicals in.

And then, because Hedgehog was looking at her in the way that meant she wasn’t going to let it go unmentioned, Gosie mentioned the discrepancy.

"@EdithStourton noticed it, not me. Said the circle was out of true, just in one small place. The rest of it machine pressed, clean as anything. That one bit wasn’t.”

“Wasn’t what,” said @AngleofRepose, not looking up from the atlas, which had reappeared on the table sometime between the tea and the toast.

“I don’t know. Just wrong. Different, somehow, from the rest of the mark.”

Angle turned a page without any particular urgency. “Worth remembering,” she said, which from Angle counted as considerable enthusiasm, and went back to whatever she was cross-referencing.

It was @Boiledbeetle who spoke next, from her position half under the table where she had been quietly working through a plate of Tunnocks Teacakes that nobody remembered giving her.

“Well, obviously,” she said, through a mouthful of marshmallow, “they thought they’d finished.”

“Finished what?” said Hedgehog.

“Aurelia. That’s why the workshops went quiet. They were close. Days away, maybe less, and then you lot went and took the one thing they still needed.”

“So it wasn’t finished?” said Hedgehog.

“Wasn’t then. Isn’t now, unless they’ve been very quick about it.” Boily reached for another teacake. “But you forced Customs to seize the last few consignments they needed, and workshops don’t start quietly asking around for new work unless somebody still wants something built.”

“Of course,” said Hedgehog. “The project in Portland. Days away from completion, and we stopped it.”

“They still want it done,” said Boily. “So they still need the stuff. Seeds. Maps. Ledgers. Stonework. Glass, evidently. Whatever they lost, they’ll need it again, one way or another.”

Glossy had already pinned the Norwich prints up beside the other photographs on the wall, the roundel enlarged twice over, the symbol in the border blown up bigger still, and it was Graft who saw them first.

She got up and crossed the room without excusing herself. Grind followed, because Grind generally did.

“That’s the glass from the yacht,” Graft said. “The crate we opened. I’d know that cut anywhere, and that blue.” She looked at Grind. “Same panes.”

“Same panes,” Grind agreed, with the flat certainty of someone confirming a measurement rather than offering an opinion.

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/9-conversations

Edited

I haven't a clue where this is going, but it's absolutely fascinating!😁

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 18:36

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 18:21

I suspect they will soon, if they don't already!

Does Gosie need a bodyguard?

I have a suspicion that she might be trained in martial arts.

FuzzyPuffling · 04/08/2026 18:45

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 17:28

And I'm sorry if this is upsetting, but I LOVE the heat.

Currently at night I am wearing cotton scrubs as pyjamas and socks and I am under a thin waffle blanket with a cotton American quilt (so quite thin) folded over twice on top of the blanket. There is a fan on, and I get cold.

If it's too humid I really don't like it, but I am very much enjoying this summer.

I'd like to love it, but unfortunately I have a couple of heart issues ( unrelated to one another, just tough luck) which means I am in danger of fainting if I try anything strenuous. Like moving.

AngleofRepose · 04/08/2026 18:47

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 18:36

Does Gosie need a bodyguard?

I have a suspicion that she might be trained in martial arts.

I think Gosie can handle herself. But she has all of us to call on, plus a galleon (galleon?) and magic dream gerbils as well.

And a swashbuckler!

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 18:54

AngleofRepose · 04/08/2026 18:47

I think Gosie can handle herself. But she has all of us to call on, plus a galleon (galleon?) and magic dream gerbils as well.

And a swashbuckler!

Edited

True, she can call on a lion, a wolef and a dragon, plus an aerial squadron to airlift her out of danger.

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EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 19:00

And a cat / dinosaur hybrid with claws, fangs & a spiky tail.

FuzzyPuffling · 04/08/2026 19:10

But no puffins, as i seem to have vanished, pre the American episode, some months ago.
I expect I'm faffing about on the vast Atlantic.

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 19:16

I know how to say ‘I have to find my chicken’ in Norwegian now (Jeg må finne kyllingen min) but we haven’t covered finding puffins.

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 19:27

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 18:36

Does Gosie need a bodyguard?

I have a suspicion that she might be trained in martial arts.

You'll find the answer to that here:
https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/reminiscence

Reminiscence

In which Gosie's exquisite posture is explained...

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/reminiscence

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 19:33

AngleofRepose · 04/08/2026 18:19

Do they know?!

They know that the last two consignments were seized by US Customs. Three chapters towards the end of Book I talk about the penultimate consignment:

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/infiltration
https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/the-paper-trail
https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/the-customs-copy

The next two chapters talk about the final consignment:

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/the-laminated-napkin
https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/an-unscheduled-boarding

And then you may as well have the last chapter:
https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/the-homecoming

Infiltration

In which warehouse entry turns out to be easier than expected...

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/infiltration

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 19:34

FuzzyPuffling · 04/08/2026 19:10

But no puffins, as i seem to have vanished, pre the American episode, some months ago.
I expect I'm faffing about on the vast Atlantic.

I can mention you again, but I suspect you'll lead Gosie on another Magical Mystery Tour and she still won't find you...

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 19:35

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 19:16

I know how to say ‘I have to find my chicken’ in Norwegian now (Jeg må finne kyllingen min) but we haven’t covered finding puffins.

How about magpies or chickadees?

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