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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Vulva Only Spaces

269 replies

Lurkingandlearning · 17/07/2026 19:41

Is this what we need to be asking for now?

That wouldn't exclude people who had transitioned. But it would exclude people who have a penis. Surely when people had transitioned and have a vulva instead of a penis they would feel exactly the same way, as women.

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Hedgehogforshort · 18/07/2026 22:15

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 21:47

I don't really think I want to see a diagram, thanks. 😳

How about an an analogy

take a ripe banana

peel it back.

take the bit that provides pleasure

tie the peelings together to make a small hole

let it dry up and smell

call it a bulva

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 18/07/2026 22:18

Hedgehogforshort · 18/07/2026 22:15

How about an an analogy

take a ripe banana

peel it back.

take the bit that provides pleasure

tie the peelings together to make a small hole

let it dry up and smell

call it a bulva

Yeah. Thanks. Much better.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 18/07/2026 23:06

Neonana

CohensDiamondTeeth · 18/07/2026 23:56

Coconutter24 · 18/07/2026 16:12

Why is ‘they’ a question?

The OP used "they" when talking about women earlier.

BettyBooper pointed out that most of us use "us" when talking about other women.

The OP edited their post not realising that we can all still see what was originally written in edited posts.

OP has been using some interesting choices of words to try and wedge men who have had gender surgery into female only single sex spaces by specifically focusing on "vulvas" (including men with surgically modified genitalia, even though this is not a vulva), and a lack of penis which isn't the point, it's not about genitalia, it's about not wanting any men in female single sex spaces.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 19/07/2026 00:03

Bugger! I thought I'd nip off quickly to pick up some Tunnocks to give bribe my new teacher in the ways of Witchy Words. I was only gone a second, and I've come back to find the line for would be apprentices is backed up all down the street and round the corner!

It looks like it'll be a while till I reach the front of the queue. I may get hungry and have to eat my chocolatey offerings, I hope that doesn't count against me!

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KnickerlessParsons · 19/07/2026 00:04

Lurkingandlearning · 17/07/2026 19:44

I'm sorry. I thought part of the surgery to change the genitalia removed the penis and created something at least resembling a vulva. Am I wrong?

”Something resembling a vulva” is not a vulva.

Hedgehogforshort · 19/07/2026 00:15

I am not sure but my spider feels think this OP was Robin Moira White.

Sussing out the idea that menz with a GRC would be palatable to us, or maybe one of his mates.

the op INMO was a man.

BiologicalRobot · 19/07/2026 00:41

the op INMO was a man.

But how can you tell?? 😱

CohensDiamondTeeth · 19/07/2026 00:45

Hedgehogforshort · 19/07/2026 00:15

I am not sure but my spider feels think this OP was Robin Moira White.

Sussing out the idea that menz with a GRC would be palatable to us, or maybe one of his mates.

the op INMO was a man.

Aaah! No one say his name two more times or I'm told he appears! 😆

Who ever it was I agree it was probably a man.

To OP and all other men who keep trying to push at our boundaries, no matter how many times you ask us, and no matter how you put the question

NO MEANS NO!

No males in female single sex spaces!

Holymolymoon · 19/07/2026 01:19

Tl;dr what about women and girls who have been cut?

CohensDiamondTeeth · 19/07/2026 05:27

"Non-men"? Is that just the TIFs and other women, or do we think that's an "inclusive term" that encompasses the TIMs who've had genital surgery and now have something "resembling a vulva" as the OP put it?

Silly question really. We all should know by now that there are only men, and everything and everyone else is just unimportant "non-men" background noise 🙄

Edited to add "and other women".

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 08:45

CohensDiamondTeeth · 18/07/2026 23:56

The OP used "they" when talking about women earlier.

BettyBooper pointed out that most of us use "us" when talking about other women.

The OP edited their post not realising that we can all still see what was originally written in edited posts.

OP has been using some interesting choices of words to try and wedge men who have had gender surgery into female only single sex spaces by specifically focusing on "vulvas" (including men with surgically modified genitalia, even though this is not a vulva), and a lack of penis which isn't the point, it's not about genitalia, it's about not wanting any men in female single sex spaces.

But ‘they’ is correct in that sentence. I am a woman and I wouldn’t say ‘us’ especially in that sentence… I think us need that.. sounds retarded. Maybe OP could have said ‘we’ but ‘they’ is also correct because it refers to a group of more than two. Picking up on the use of they is just nitpicking

GriseldaandMike · 19/07/2026 08:57

CohensDiamondTeeth · 19/07/2026 00:03

Bugger! I thought I'd nip off quickly to pick up some Tunnocks to give bribe my new teacher in the ways of Witchy Words. I was only gone a second, and I've come back to find the line for would be apprentices is backed up all down the street and round the corner!

It looks like it'll be a while till I reach the front of the queue. I may get hungry and have to eat my chocolatey offerings, I hope that doesn't count against me!

I have yet to take on apprentice. Those I was in negotiations with yesterday all chose other masters so tell me about these Tunnocks you haven't bought Snowballs in July have you?

CohensDiamondTeeth · 19/07/2026 09:05

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 08:45

But ‘they’ is correct in that sentence. I am a woman and I wouldn’t say ‘us’ especially in that sentence… I think us need that.. sounds retarded. Maybe OP could have said ‘we’ but ‘they’ is also correct because it refers to a group of more than two. Picking up on the use of they is just nitpicking

That's a really offensive word here FYI.

The word most people would use there would be "we" not "us", "I think we need".

You may think it's nitpicking, I think it's just being aware and paying attention to how male TRAs often try to use words to obscure.

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 09:37

CohensDiamondTeeth · 19/07/2026 09:05

That's a really offensive word here FYI.

The word most people would use there would be "we" not "us", "I think we need".

You may think it's nitpicking, I think it's just being aware and paying attention to how male TRAs often try to use words to obscure.

I did say the word ‘we’ could be used (provided the OP is biologically female).

Trans male would surely want to use the words he/him? Regardless of what anyone wants to do with it, the word ‘they’ was used first for a group

WearyAuldWumman · 19/07/2026 10:16

Helleofabore · 19/07/2026 05:07

https://x.com/damekatydenise_/status/2078570252011516137?s=46

Dame Katy Denise must have been reading this thread and been inspired. ‘Non-men with vulvas’.

It is a good reminder that we have seen that term before, just like we have seen the terms like ‘vulva haver’ or vulva owner in the past,

I almost mourn my hacked Twitter account.

Myalternate · 19/07/2026 10:30

Helleofabore · 19/07/2026 05:07

https://x.com/damekatydenise_/status/2078570252011516137?s=46

Dame Katy Denise must have been reading this thread and been inspired. ‘Non-men with vulvas’.

It is a good reminder that we have seen that term before, just like we have seen the terms like ‘vulva haver’ or vulva owner in the past,

Isn’t he standing outside the female loo?

Helleofabore · 19/07/2026 10:39

Myalternate · 19/07/2026 10:30

Isn’t he standing outside the female loo?

He claims to have used it.. but who knows.

It remains intimidating though, doesn’t it, that a bloke takes such a pic and puts it on social media so female people can see it.

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 10:49

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 08:45

But ‘they’ is correct in that sentence. I am a woman and I wouldn’t say ‘us’ especially in that sentence… I think us need that.. sounds retarded. Maybe OP could have said ‘we’ but ‘they’ is also correct because it refers to a group of more than two. Picking up on the use of they is just nitpicking

Is it nitpicking to pick up on your use of 'retarded' ?
I don't think it is, I think it's offensive, and I don't think there's anything nit-picky or subtle about that.
I us/we/they believe that 'retard' and 'retarded' belong back in the vaults with all the other outdated offensive terms for people with disabilities.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 19/07/2026 11:00

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 10:49

Is it nitpicking to pick up on your use of 'retarded' ?
I don't think it is, I think it's offensive, and I don't think there's anything nit-picky or subtle about that.
I us/we/they believe that 'retard' and 'retarded' belong back in the vaults with all the other outdated offensive terms for people with disabilities.

100%

Helleofabore · 19/07/2026 11:18

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 10:49

Is it nitpicking to pick up on your use of 'retarded' ?
I don't think it is, I think it's offensive, and I don't think there's anything nit-picky or subtle about that.
I us/we/they believe that 'retard' and 'retarded' belong back in the vaults with all the other outdated offensive terms for people with disabilities.

Agree

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 11:40

Thank you for agreeing about the offensiveness of 'retarded'.

I get the impression that it is in use to mean 'stupid' in the USA, whereas it isn't on this side of the Atlantic.

Is this another example of Americanisms, like 'bathroom' for toilet, that mark the writer out as either American themselves, or so heavily influenced by US culture that they bring in terms and experiences that don't fit over here?

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 12:24

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 10:49

Is it nitpicking to pick up on your use of 'retarded' ?
I don't think it is, I think it's offensive, and I don't think there's anything nit-picky or subtle about that.
I us/we/they believe that 'retard' and 'retarded' belong back in the vaults with all the other outdated offensive terms for people with disabilities.

No, it’s not nitpicking if you want to pick up on that if it offends you. However picking up on someone using a correct word such as they in a sentence is nitpicking

Helleofabore · 19/07/2026 12:37

I don’t believe the term retarded was ‘correctly’ used in the post.

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