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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Vulva Only Spaces

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Lurkingandlearning · 17/07/2026 19:41

Is this what we need to be asking for now?

That wouldn't exclude people who had transitioned. But it would exclude people who have a penis. Surely when people had transitioned and have a vulva instead of a penis they would feel exactly the same way, as women.

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Grammarnut · 20/07/2026 22:00

Lurkingandlearning · 17/07/2026 19:44

I'm sorry. I thought part of the surgery to change the genitalia removed the penis and created something at least resembling a vulva. Am I wrong?

TiMs create an open wound in their body which resembles a vagina like a Route master bus resembles a Ferrari - they are both red, that's it. And it smells off, apparently.
Having such a wound does not make a man a woman and they are not welcome in women's spaces.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 19/07/2026 19:27

So Coconutter's a new (old?) Interrupteron then, well that's grand isn't it?

I can't be arsed, they're not worth any of our time and clearly just trying to annoy women with silly arguments (us/they/we - snore!), and offensive terms used with the intent to offend which is really mature of them🙄

Vulva Only Spaces
DeanElderberry · 19/07/2026 16:58

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 15:06

I know the dictionary definition, I said informally, so no I’m not retarded but you don’t get a place on the high horse for pulling someone up for using a word and then go on to call someone it, that’s double standards

It is medical diagnosis that was used to deprive people of the right to access, care, education and employment. It was a concept used to justify the 'eugenic' compulsory sterilisation or even murder of 'unfit' people.

The new eugenics will use it to coerce people into 'assisted dying'. It is dehumanising and deeply deeply offensive. It is extremely naive to think its recent re-emergence of the term as a casual insult on social media happened outside that context.

Helleofabore · 19/07/2026 16:07

PrettyDamnCosmic · 19/07/2026 15:36

I can see the word offends some.

So why fucking use it if you know it's an offensive slur?

Because it apparently only offends ‘some’ people. Make it make sense!

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 15:54

PrettyDamnCosmic · 19/07/2026 15:36

I can see the word offends some.

So why fucking use it if you know it's an offensive slur?

Maybe I should of wrote ‘now’ I see it offends

Hedgehogforshort · 19/07/2026 15:49

here is what i think

Coconutter should stop arguing back, everyone else involved in this tiff should drop it now, point made.

thread fun has been spoiled by a side tiff.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 19/07/2026 15:36

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 15:33

I don’t need you to tell me it’s offensive and I don’t need a dictionary definition, I can see the word offends some.

I can see the word offends some.

So why fucking use it if you know it's an offensive slur?

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 15:33

PrettyDamnCosmic · 19/07/2026 15:09

I'm telling you that the word is very offensive as per the dictionary definition which you choose to ignore because you don't like being pulled up for using a slur.

I don’t need you to tell me it’s offensive and I don’t need a dictionary definition, I can see the word offends some.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 19/07/2026 15:09

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 15:06

I know the dictionary definition, I said informally, so no I’m not retarded but you don’t get a place on the high horse for pulling someone up for using a word and then go on to call someone it, that’s double standards

I'm telling you that the word is very offensive as per the dictionary definition which you choose to ignore because you don't like being pulled up for using a slur.

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 15:06

PrettyDamnCosmic · 19/07/2026 15:02

Informally it means stupid or foolish, the word ‘we’ would have sounded stupid in the sentence being referred to. So it wasn’t used incorrectly

You must be retarded as you don't know the meaning of the word😀

# retarded
/rɪˈtɑːdɪd/
adjective
adjective: retarded
1.
offensive•dated
less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age.
2.
offensive•derogatory
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very foolish or stupid.

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I know the dictionary definition, I said informally, so no I’m not retarded but you don’t get a place on the high horse for pulling someone up for using a word and then go on to call someone it, that’s double standards

PrettyDamnCosmic · 19/07/2026 15:02

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 14:56

Informally it means stupid or foolish, the word ‘we’ would have sounded stupid in the sentence being referred to. So it wasn’t used incorrectly

Informally it means stupid or foolish, the word ‘we’ would have sounded stupid in the sentence being referred to. So it wasn’t used incorrectly

You must be retarded as you don't know the meaning of the word😀

# retarded
/rɪˈtɑːdɪd/
adjective
adjective: retarded
1.
offensive•dated
less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age.
2.
offensive•derogatory
Hide definition
very foolish or stupid.

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 14:56

WrongKindOfFeminist · 19/07/2026 14:54

Your username is 'Coconutter' and you are using 'retarded' as an insult.

Because the username WrongKindOfFeminist is so much better

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 14:56

Helleofabore · 19/07/2026 12:37

I don’t believe the term retarded was ‘correctly’ used in the post.

Informally it means stupid or foolish, the word ‘we’ would have sounded stupid in the sentence being referred to. So it wasn’t used incorrectly

WrongKindOfFeminist · 19/07/2026 14:54

Your username is 'Coconutter' and you are using 'retarded' as an insult.

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 14:52

helderste · 19/07/2026 12:52

if it offends you

It offends her because it is an extremely offensive term and has been considered to be so for decades!

I can see it offends her and why so your comment is pointless

WrongKindOfFeminist · 19/07/2026 13:46

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 11:40

Thank you for agreeing about the offensiveness of 'retarded'.

I get the impression that it is in use to mean 'stupid' in the USA, whereas it isn't on this side of the Atlantic.

Is this another example of Americanisms, like 'bathroom' for toilet, that mark the writer out as either American themselves, or so heavily influenced by US culture that they bring in terms and experiences that don't fit over here?

Yes. There are other terms with similar issues, like 'spastic', used in the US as a mild insult without the apparent revulsion that it provokes in the UK.

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 19/07/2026 13:08

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 11:40

Thank you for agreeing about the offensiveness of 'retarded'.

I get the impression that it is in use to mean 'stupid' in the USA, whereas it isn't on this side of the Atlantic.

Is this another example of Americanisms, like 'bathroom' for toilet, that mark the writer out as either American themselves, or so heavily influenced by US culture that they bring in terms and experiences that don't fit over here?

I get the impression that it is in use to mean 'stupid' in the USA, whereas it isn't on this side of the Atlantic.

Yes, Marie, unfortunately still in use by many Americans, but fortunately most Americans seem to realize it's a derogatory term, and has been for a long time (in our area, we all used it as kids, back in the 60s, until our parents found out!) Some people clearly never got the memo. Or don't care. Perhaps it has been picked up again through social media, and will have to be stamped out again. It is really jarring to see it!

But, then, "handicapped" is still an "acceptable," and even official, term in the US (at least it still was in 2024, last time I was home).

RareGoalsVerge · 19/07/2026 13:02

Ignore this message I was mucking around with Flowers and pressed "post" instead of "preview"

helderste · 19/07/2026 12:52

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 12:24

No, it’s not nitpicking if you want to pick up on that if it offends you. However picking up on someone using a correct word such as they in a sentence is nitpicking

if it offends you

It offends her because it is an extremely offensive term and has been considered to be so for decades!

Helleofabore · 19/07/2026 12:37

I don’t believe the term retarded was ‘correctly’ used in the post.

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 12:24

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 10:49

Is it nitpicking to pick up on your use of 'retarded' ?
I don't think it is, I think it's offensive, and I don't think there's anything nit-picky or subtle about that.
I us/we/they believe that 'retard' and 'retarded' belong back in the vaults with all the other outdated offensive terms for people with disabilities.

No, it’s not nitpicking if you want to pick up on that if it offends you. However picking up on someone using a correct word such as they in a sentence is nitpicking

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 11:40

Thank you for agreeing about the offensiveness of 'retarded'.

I get the impression that it is in use to mean 'stupid' in the USA, whereas it isn't on this side of the Atlantic.

Is this another example of Americanisms, like 'bathroom' for toilet, that mark the writer out as either American themselves, or so heavily influenced by US culture that they bring in terms and experiences that don't fit over here?

Helleofabore · 19/07/2026 11:18

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 10:49

Is it nitpicking to pick up on your use of 'retarded' ?
I don't think it is, I think it's offensive, and I don't think there's anything nit-picky or subtle about that.
I us/we/they believe that 'retard' and 'retarded' belong back in the vaults with all the other outdated offensive terms for people with disabilities.

Agree

WrongKindOfFeminist · 19/07/2026 11:00

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 10:49

Is it nitpicking to pick up on your use of 'retarded' ?
I don't think it is, I think it's offensive, and I don't think there's anything nit-picky or subtle about that.
I us/we/they believe that 'retard' and 'retarded' belong back in the vaults with all the other outdated offensive terms for people with disabilities.

100%

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 10:49

Coconutter24 · 19/07/2026 08:45

But ‘they’ is correct in that sentence. I am a woman and I wouldn’t say ‘us’ especially in that sentence… I think us need that.. sounds retarded. Maybe OP could have said ‘we’ but ‘they’ is also correct because it refers to a group of more than two. Picking up on the use of they is just nitpicking

Is it nitpicking to pick up on your use of 'retarded' ?
I don't think it is, I think it's offensive, and I don't think there's anything nit-picky or subtle about that.
I us/we/they believe that 'retard' and 'retarded' belong back in the vaults with all the other outdated offensive terms for people with disabilities.

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