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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Full Council Chaos. Bristol City Council refusing to implement single sex services

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LoudDeer · 15/07/2026 08:47

Last night at the full council meeting women asking questions about BCC's refusal to implement the law was met with heckling from the gallery and a nonsensical word salad from council officials.

Somehow the number of questions, and goodness knows what other personal details, was leaked from within the Council offices and fed to far left activists who put out a call for attendance online. At least 100 turned up and abused and harrassed members of the public while they were speaking. At one point they were shouting at a questioners to sit down. No action was taken by council officials to maintain order.

As they left, women were met with heckling, chanting and shouting outside the building from more far left activists. The atmosphere was intimidating and abusive.

Please note, the Council agenda that evening held an item on a city wide commitment to ending VAWG. Harrassment and abuse was happening right in front of them and they not only initiated this spectacle but supported it.

Women are not safe in Bristol.

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Mmmnotsure · 23/07/2026 15:01

Keeptoiletssafe · 23/07/2026 14:03

I am putting off a load of cleaning today. What you are seeing as patience is more like me trying to avoid housework by doing something more interesting and using my knowledge for better use 😂. I kid you not, I am now off to clean the bathroom…

I trust that's a properly configured bathroom, with the correct signage. Cos, you know, people have [gasp] gender-neutral bathrooms in their houses, therefore...

Keeptoiletssafe · 23/07/2026 23:30

😅

CohensDiamondTeeth · 23/07/2026 23:46

Mmmnotsure · 23/07/2026 13:44

💐for @Keeptoiletssafe for her work and information - and patience!

Agreed! Flowers Cake Gin @Keeptoiletssafe

nocoolnamesleft · 24/07/2026 00:49

Mmmnotsure · 23/07/2026 15:01

I trust that's a properly configured bathroom, with the correct signage. Cos, you know, people have [gasp] gender-neutral bathrooms in their houses, therefore...

Where they actually, you know, know the people with whom they live.

nutmeg7 · 24/07/2026 09:22

MashaPav · 23/07/2026 11:10

They should make all toilets gender neutral. That will piss off all the feminist identifying transphobes types.

You really are arguing at such a childish level. Perhaps you are quite young? You don’t seem able to engage at all, but just repeat trite slogans and “ner ner ner” playground talk.

It isn’t worth engaging with you in any seriousness.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 24/07/2026 09:59

MashaPav · 23/07/2026 11:10

They should make all toilets gender neutral. That will piss off all the feminist identifying transphobes types.

All single sex toilets are gender neutral so joke’s on you.

We’re not interested in so called ‘gender’, biological sex is the only relevant factor in these spaces.

Keeptoiletssafe · 24/07/2026 10:21

nocoolnamesleft · 24/07/2026 00:49

Where they actually, you know, know the people with whom they live.

Yes my home bathroom is like everyone else’s. I don’t talk much about home toilets because I want to raise awareness of the limiting factor for health and safety in non domestic toilets - to reduce preventable harm.

One easy thing you can do in home toilets is to make sure the lock you have can open the door from the outside. You are more likely to be able to get to a collapsed person in a home bathroom as the space is usually bigger.

Remember lots of public places (including all secondary schools) have a defibrillator. Designs can also open doors from the outside in case someone collapses against the door. You have all the components to help someone except knowing they have collapsed in the first place.

For obvious reasons, the following may be upsetting so bit of a trigger warning for a few of you who have discussed toilet incidents with me in the past.

A few days ago I was reading a story about a Radio 1 DJ who was ill, went to the bathroom, fell unconscious and hit her head. She was saying thank goodness her husband was there at the time. When it’s on your radar, you realise how many people have a toilet story.

After I started researching, a family friend felt ill, went to the bathroom and had a stroke but his wife was out. She found him much later unconscious when she came back. As everyone is aware, you need to act fast with strokes and our friend has died.

An Japanese academic study showed the frequency of return of spontaneous circulation was highest in those who collapsed in the presence of caregivers and lowest in those whose collapse were discovered later by family members being worried that the patient stayed in the toilet “too long.” The rarity of long-term survival among individuals sustaining cardiac arrest in the toilet is mainly due to the delay in discovering the individual who collapsed. The results were 70% in the presence of a caregiver, 55% if the caregiver heard them collapse and 30% if they were wondering why they were spending too long on the toilet.

Whilst there’s no accessible data to show the exact location where people in the UK collapse, the British Heart Foundation states that cardiovascular disease causes over a quarter of all deaths in the UK, or around 170,000 deaths each year – an average of 460 deaths each day or one every three minutes in the UK. There are more than 8 million people living with a cardiovascular disease in the UK. It's the single biggest premature killer (before the age of 75) in the UK. In the UK there are around 100,000 hospital admissions each year due to heart attacks: that's one every five minutes. Around 1.4 million people alive in the UK today have survived a heart attack. More than a million people in the UK today have heart failure.
There are more than 40,000 out-of-hospital cardiac arrests in the UK each year, with a survival rate of less than 1 in 10.

Strokes cause around 34,000 deaths in the UK each year and are the biggest cause of severe disability in the UK.
Another Japanese academic study from 2017, concluded the toilet is a closed space where stroke occurs disproportionately frequently. They stated less than 40% of patients could call for help by themselves, and recommended efforts to reduce the incidence of toilet-related strokes is warranted, as early patient detection is not always feasible.

In many situations in a non-domestic environment, no one is clock watching you on the toilet or aware of which toilet you went into.

When Dr Michael Moseley died, there was a story about how he was at the BBC, and a young woman had collapsed in the corridor. He saved her life. No one would have seen her in one of the BBCs ‘gender neutral’ toilets.

There are several reasons more toilets open to the public are being enclosed. Men’s voyeurism and encouraging a mixed sex environment play a big part in what is ironically called ‘inclusive’ design.

Enclosing non-domestic toilets is not good for health and safety. We need to keep the numbers as low as possible. Design, regulation and legislation wise, that means keeping the numbers of toilets in a mixed sex environment as low as possible.

nicepotoftea · 24/07/2026 10:28

Mmmnotsure · 23/07/2026 15:01

I trust that's a properly configured bathroom, with the correct signage. Cos, you know, people have [gasp] gender-neutral bathrooms in their houses, therefore...

ETA: have edited original post as mistakenly thought this actually was a 'the loo in your house is gender neutral' post.

Apologies!

Keeptoiletssafe · 24/07/2026 10:41

I thought you were all being sarcastic and it went over my head. But the ‘like home’ comments did prompt me to add some more academic stuff I don’t normally discuss.

I have all this data, evidence and case studies and actually it does take a lot of patience when people say their home loo is the same. It really, really isn’t.

Mmmnotsure · 24/07/2026 11:07

@Keeptoiletssafe
I'm sure you didn't think I was being sarcastic vis-a-vis you. Just at the idiotic your-home-toilet-is-gender-neutral-so-all-public-facilities-can/should-be argument.

Thank you for this new post about the question of bathrooms at home - and even raising that people should keep their antennae out for family members disappearing for prolonged periods (though that's rather a male trait, I understand). It's not just if you think someone might keel over - a toddler locking themselves in a space with lots of available water isn't great either, and happens, as you will know.

Keeptoiletssafe · 24/07/2026 11:42

No I thought everyone above was just being critical of the ‘well we have them at home’ excuse. No offence taken whatsoever. I was oblivious!

And yes to water danger - especially the bath.

Obviously the other harm I didn’t touch on with home v non-home is that is very different who has legitimate access to your toilet compartment at home and the area in front of it. That becomes a big component of why door gaps are a necessity for best health and safety in a non-domestic environment compared to at home.

I hope by reading these threads more people see why toilets are designed and regulated the way they are and think of everyone’s safety when they are at their most vulnerable.

One little thing I do is to make sure the pull cord in accessible toilets is untied. They can be tied up out of reach. And I may have been known to complain that an accessible toilet was being used as a store cupboard!!

Maybe one good thing to come out of this is that people will really place value on the accessible toilet. It should be respected more than it is.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/07/2026 15:03

Brighton is always going to have the last Japanese soldiers standing.

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