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Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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fromorbit · 02/05/2026 11:45

Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Greens internal drama warms up | Mumsnet

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts. *How the Green Party forgot...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

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fromorbit · 13/09/2026 11:37

Lalgarh · 13/09/2026 11:23

Your Party are still knocking around.

Or there's Galloway's lot, but they're not LGBTQ friendly

SWP would be perfect.

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fromorbit · 13/09/2026 11:27

SwirlyGates · 13/09/2026 10:42

If they're blaming his social media posts (which are, let's be honest, bad enough in themselves to warrant his removal), why on earth don't they check people's posts routinely? It's not like they were hard to find.

(More likely, I guess, they knew about this all along and thought he'd fit right in, until the media got wind of him and they didn't want to back him publicly.)

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Folan has had some of his crazy abusive posts reported to the Greens for years. They didn't need to go look. Thing is there are so many messed up Greens they have a backlog.

The timing on Folan's suspension is clearly connected to the higher profile of winning the position.

Thing is if Folan keeps digging it may have the side effect of undermining the suspensions of Green members who made the shocking crime of knowing biology.

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Chersfrozenface · 13/09/2026 11:23

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2026 10:54

What happens when people are booted from the Greens for being too unsavoury? Where do they go?

Once there are enough of them they could form their own party/movement.

Though judging by their past actions and the sad history of the polycule, it would last rather less time than Your Party.

Lalgarh · 13/09/2026 11:23

Your Party are still knocking around.

Or there's Galloway's lot, but they're not LGBTQ friendly

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2026 10:54

What happens when people are booted from the Greens for being too unsavoury? Where do they go?

Lalgarh · 13/09/2026 10:49

Remember Mr Molly who was so crazy that the Scottish Greens had to get him out.

Sophie Molly aka Euan Weddell aka pot noodle is a whole storm system of his own and I'm wondering if it's only a matter of time before Folan joins his fetid polycule.

SwirlyGates · 13/09/2026 10:42

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 12/09/2026 22:11

So nothing to do with him being elected into a female only role, even though he's a male. Omnicause first, women's rights never. 😤

If they're blaming his social media posts (which are, let's be honest, bad enough in themselves to warrant his removal), why on earth don't they check people's posts routinely? It's not like they were hard to find.

(More likely, I guess, they knew about this all along and thought he'd fit right in, until the media got wind of him and they didn't want to back him publicly.)

ArabellaScott · 12/09/2026 22:33

Ruhroh.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 12/09/2026 22:11

So nothing to do with him being elected into a female only role, even though he's a male. Omnicause first, women's rights never. 😤

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fromorbit · 12/09/2026 22:08

Folan case development. The Green party have made an official statement basically calling him a liar while he has doubled down in response.

https://x.com/ShahrarAli/status/2098522168111808749

Interesting if there are implications from this going forward.
Remember Mr Molly who was so crazy that the Scottish Greens had to get him out. The Greens are running into the same issue again they have faced before. They are so lucky that the horrific Challenor case took place when coverup of trans crimes was more easy.

Shahrar Ali (@ShahrarAli) on X

Unprecedented briefing by official party organ against a suspended party member. First the Party statement then the party member response, barely coded. like floodlights.

https://x.com/ShahrarAli/status/2098522168111808749

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Lalgarh · 12/09/2026 09:29

Interesting it's women and Non binary and trans members being bullied out

Female councillors and officers have reported being “sidelined, patronised, intimidated or treated with hostility by male colleagues”, according to a motion submitted for the party’s autumn conference that accuses the Greens of failing to confront “institutionalised misogyny”.
The motion says such behaviour has been “downplayed, denied or treated as less serious than other forms of oppression” and warns that internal disputes can “fester for years”.
It adds: “Women, non-binary people and trans people remain underrepresented in local, regional and national politics, and these experiences make it harder for marginalised genders to stand, serve and remain active.” .........

.... A Green Party source added: “I don’t recognise this as an accurate characterisation of the party, either in relation to the situation in Leeds or to the scale of internal complaints relating to misogyny. The majority of members respect the confidentiality of our internal investigations and their outcomes, as do I.

“Misogyny is sadly still pervasive across society, and every party and organisation has a responsibility to listen to concerns and keep improving.

Is this new green party members or establishment green men

ItsCoolForCats · 12/09/2026 09:10

ErroltheSwampDragon · 11/09/2026 22:22

Not sure if this will work https://www.thetimes.com/article/fe532b69-f478-4e32-8ad3-cb0454c85f66?shareToken=f539b5456c1e2adf44ce4147b1d1e38a

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Thank you @ErroltheSwampDragon , it does

ErroltheSwampDragon · 11/09/2026 22:22

ItsCoolForCats · 11/09/2026 19:47

Does anyone have a shared token for this please?

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/women-green-mp-misogyny-zack-polanski-p23grkr79

Not sure if this will work https://www.thetimes.com/article/fe532b69-f478-4e32-8ad3-cb0454c85f66?shareToken=f539b5456c1e2adf44ce4147b1d1e38a

Lalgarh · 11/09/2026 09:54

Given that assisted dying is back for a 2nd reading after being talked out earlier this year, this is another potential schism with the new green Gaza voter block and the #BeKind greens.

Taking Your Party as an example, all the Gaza Independents voted against the bill last year but the Scottish greens were the ones advocating for this most vociferously in the Scottish Parliament

ArabellaScott · 11/09/2026 07:48

fromorbit · 08/09/2026 08:29

On PoliticsLive Green Party deputy leader Rachel Millward defends colleague Mothin Ali
https://x.com/BBCPolitics/status/2096968929037914354

Millward is also a landlord

Are any of them not landlords?

ArabellaScott · 11/09/2026 07:30

Might have to rejoin just to watch conference. 😂

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/09/2026 02:18

fromorbit · 10/09/2026 20:25

Folan's row with Kai Taylor on X with Kai Taylor co-chair of the GPC (Green Party Council) about his suspension continues.

Now Folan has unearthed a tweet from Green Women's Declaration supporting Taylor over someone else in an election. This I assume is because Taylor was backing the Ramsey/Chowns faction of the Greens who are not as crazy as the ZPy types

Taylor still dislikes Gender crits though.

The row is continuing Folan is so awful he is unpopular with some TA Greens, others are convinced he is being targeted.

The drama will continue to escalate.

Meanwhile those who like watching political drama will enjoy the fact a whole new set of players are now in the Greens having been involved in the YP explosion. They are likely to see The Green Conference in October as a vital point to seize power within the paryy though its divided structure means it is not easily controlled. More in this blog:

will corbyn’s former staffers ruin the party ?
Posted on September 4, 2026 by The Green Light
The vast majority of ordinary members of the Green Party of England and Wales (GPEW) are probably unaware of the fact that six months ago, 1400 activists from Momentum who migrated to World Transform and transitioned to Your Party joined the GPEW, just as that last of Corbyn’s ambitious socialist project was imploding.

Prominent amongst this new cohort are former Labour officials and politicians such as Labour Party general secretary Jennie Formby, labour adviser James Meadway, North Tyne Mayor Jamie Driscoll , former MP Llyod Russel-Moyle and David Prescott. In addition, ex-Labour spin doctors Richard Simcox and James Schneider have joined the Party’s communications team. Who knows how many ex-Labour ‘operators’ ‘have joined since?

https://thegreenlight.blog/2026/09/04/will-corbyns-former-staffers-ruin-the-party/

Lloyd Russell-Moyle has joined the Greens? 😧

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/09/2026 02:15

fromorbit · 05/09/2026 08:51

I think Folan's suspension was fast tracked because Zippy wants to be an MP.

A whole year of mad Zack
How Zack Polanski and the doolally left conquered the Green Party.
Happy first anniversary to the most preposterous party leader Britain has ever had. Yes, it’s 12 months since Zack Polanski took the reins of the Greens. Twelve months since he left behind his tit-whispering days to become the pied piper of woke pricks everywhere. And what an unintentionally comical 12 months it has been.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/09/04/a-whole-year-of-mad-zack/

Meanwhile on X Owen Jones got into an argument with a Gaza women who told him there were no LGBT people in Gaza.

He absolutely skewers him here

Polanski really gave the game away on Question Time when he said he loves mass immigration because, ‘I don’t know about you, but I don’t particularly want to wipe someone’s bum’. There you have it. Sell off British sovereignty so that Zack Polanski will never have to wipe an old person’s arse. Bring in an army of arse-cleaners to spare the overeducated left the indignity of ever having to see a frail relative’s rectum. To hell with Britain’s hard-won sovereign rights – we want freedom from shite! Rarely has the narcissism and nihilism of what hilariously passes for left-wing thought been so grossly on display.

Zack Polanski will never understand the dignity of care work

His ‘bum-wiping’ gaffe exposed a haughty disdain for the working-class women in this vital, challenging profession.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/12/10/zack-polanski-will-never-understand-the-dignity-of-care-work/

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fromorbit · 10/09/2026 20:33

ZPys popularity dropping
Public YouGov polling suggests that Polanski was more popular than unpopular across the country until May this year.

The switch coincided with a terror attack in Golders Green, north London, after which Polanski reposted an X post which criticised police officers for kicking the head of the stabbing suspect to get him to drop his knife.

Polanski, who is Jewish, later apologised after being rebuked by the Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley and the Prime Minister.

The Green Party leader sparked another row in July when he ‘inadvertently’ shared an image of a man wearing a T-shirt displaying the words ‘We’re only making plans for Nigel’ and an image of a guillotine.

https://metro.co.uk/2026/09/10/leaked-labour-poll-shows-zack-polanskis-popularity-falling-among-london-voters-29576457/

Labour has selected its candidate

Labour candidate selected to replace Keir Starmer in Holborn & St Pancras by-election
Leader of Camden council Sagal Abdi-Wali selected as Labour candidate to fight by-election to replace Sir Keir Starmer
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-candidate-replace-keir-starmer-holborn-st-pancras-byelection-b1296261.html

Wether ZPy gets selected by the Greens will be revealed tomorrow.

Leaked Labour poll shows Zack Polanski’s popularity falling among London voters

https://metro.co.uk/2026/09/10/leaked-labour-poll-shows-zack-polanskis-popularity-falling-among-london-voters-29576457/

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 10/09/2026 20:33

If Momentum has joined, the party is toast, they'll all be dancing to the loonie left tune, the OMNICAUSE has found a new home.
Given how many of the Green's are Pro Pally's, the party's a natural fit for Momentum, lets hope they destroy themselves before they can destroy any more of the West.

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fromorbit · 10/09/2026 20:25

Folan's row with Kai Taylor on X with Kai Taylor co-chair of the GPC (Green Party Council) about his suspension continues.

Now Folan has unearthed a tweet from Green Women's Declaration supporting Taylor over someone else in an election. This I assume is because Taylor was backing the Ramsey/Chowns faction of the Greens who are not as crazy as the ZPy types

Taylor still dislikes Gender crits though.

The row is continuing Folan is so awful he is unpopular with some TA Greens, others are convinced he is being targeted.

The drama will continue to escalate.

Meanwhile those who like watching political drama will enjoy the fact a whole new set of players are now in the Greens having been involved in the YP explosion. They are likely to see The Green Conference in October as a vital point to seize power within the paryy though its divided structure means it is not easily controlled. More in this blog:

will corbyn’s former staffers ruin the party ?
Posted on September 4, 2026 by The Green Light
The vast majority of ordinary members of the Green Party of England and Wales (GPEW) are probably unaware of the fact that six months ago, 1400 activists from Momentum who migrated to World Transform and transitioned to Your Party joined the GPEW, just as that last of Corbyn’s ambitious socialist project was imploding.

Prominent amongst this new cohort are former Labour officials and politicians such as Labour Party general secretary Jennie Formby, labour adviser James Meadway, North Tyne Mayor Jamie Driscoll , former MP Llyod Russel-Moyle and David Prescott. In addition, ex-Labour spin doctors Richard Simcox and James Schneider have joined the Party’s communications team. Who knows how many ex-Labour ‘operators’ ‘have joined since?

https://thegreenlight.blog/2026/09/04/will-corbyns-former-staffers-ruin-the-party/

will corbyn’s former staffers ruin the party ?

The vast majority of ordinary members of the Green Party of England and Wales (GPEW) are probably unaware of the fact that six months ago, 1400 activists from Momentum who migrated to World Transfo…

https://thegreenlight.blog/2026/09/04/will-corbyns-former-staffers-ruin-the-party/

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/09/2026 15:45

BezMills · 06/08/2026 10:58

I will never not laugh at Walter Titty

How about Lol McKenna

I did indeed lol at Lol McKenna

SwirlyGates · 10/09/2026 10:33

AimsAndObjectives · 08/09/2026 10:01

There seems to be a lot of TA support for him online.

Quite a lot of nuance in the discussion about Folan on transgender reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1w9ypg2/green_party_rep_suspended_for_being_a_trans_woman/

I'm not so sure about "nuance". There are plenty of comments about Iran and problematic media coverage, but the rest is about "her being suspended for being trans" and "transphobia", not specifically about taking a place reserved for women.

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fromorbit · 09/09/2026 21:01

Folan is now in a row with Kai Taylor on X with Kai Taylor co-chair of the GPC (Green Party Council) who are involved with suspensions about his suspension. Lots of claims it was rigged etc.

Greens suspend Norwich trans activist weeks after election to key women role
https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/26535440.greens-suspend-norwich-trans-activist-elected-womens-role/

Shahrar Ali
Sep 8
Firstly as someone who has had to face the weaponised use of party suspension processes (latterly for the thought crime of "misgendering" [sic] Imane Khelif - coming to a court case near you), I do sympathise with the generalised procedural injustice occasioned by a member having to face this particular firing squad totally blind of the allegations against them or without provision to make any representations.

Regarding the specifics of this case, which Folan has chosen to share, I doubt we can rely on this as a complete account.

However, in so far as the suspension relates to Folan's election to GPC, I don't see how the blame is theirs, but rather the rules and whoever sanctioned the unlawful interpretation of them.

In so far as the suspension may relate to heightened scrutiny of Folan's rabidly antisemitic rantings, the suspension strikes me as a belated yet highly appropriate use of having brought the party into disrepute.

"Mitigation" is not the process through which Folan is going to gain satisfaction however, as on past practice it would require the alleged guilty party to fess up to their misconduct first. It's not an opportunity to challenge reasoning as such and Folan's supporters should be made aware of that.

Greens suspend Norwich trans activist weeks after election to key women role

A transgender activist from Norwich elected to a prominent women’s role in the Greens has been suspended amid the threat of legal action.

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/26535440.greens-suspend-norwich-trans-activist-elected-womens-role/?ref=rss

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