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Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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fromorbit · 02/05/2026 11:45

Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Greens internal drama warms up | Mumsnet

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts. *How the Green Party forgot...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

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fromorbit · 13/06/2026 07:18

Green councillor forced to study Equality Act after cancelling authors
Helen Elliott-Boult compared gender-critical speakers to Holocaust deniers when justifying de-platforming

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/06/13/green-councillor-forced-to-study-equality-act/

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DrBlackbird · 12/06/2026 18:00

impossibletoday · 12/06/2026 17:11

The problem with GenAI is that everyone can now write a letter that strings two sentences together that makes them look semi coherent. Shame really. Doesn’t stop them from going on and on though.

DrBlackbird · 11/06/2026 22:36

Lalgarh · 11/06/2026 16:15

Little Zack has even been applauding the need for more defence spending and the "grave threat" the UK faces re: the defence secretary resigning.

I think that's his inner Lib Dem fighting to come out. I'm waiting for Zarah Sultana to say something suitably Batshit to restore my faith in the lotus eating left

He’ll say absolutely anything that he thinks will get him votes. I still do not understand how anyone has been taken in by this empty shell of soundbites.

Lalgarh · 11/06/2026 16:15

Little Zack has even been applauding the need for more defence spending and the "grave threat" the UK faces re: the defence secretary resigning.

I think that's his inner Lib Dem fighting to come out. I'm waiting for Zarah Sultana to say something suitably Batshit to restore my faith in the lotus eating left

Chersfrozenface · 11/06/2026 16:09

Interestingly, the consultation on outlawing the practice was publicised specifically in a ‘Greens for Palestine’ WhatsApp group.

Um, circumcision is very widely practised in the Muslim world. It is almost universal amongst Palestinians.

fromorbit · 11/06/2026 16:02

Greens against unnecessary surgery for kids. Have they thought about this?

EXCL: The Green party is considering a new policy to ban circumcision, The Spectator can reveal.

The party’s Health Policy Working Group (HPWG) has launched a consultation seeking views on whether parents should only be allowed to consent ‘to an irreversible surgical procedure on a child if that procedure is medically necessary’.

Circumcision is an integral part of Judaism, with Jewish boys traditionally undergoing a ‘brit milah’ on the eighth day after birth.

Interestingly, the consultation on outlawing the practice was publicised specifically in a ‘Greens for Palestine’ WhatsApp group.
https://archive.is/oYQeF

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fromorbit · 11/06/2026 14:36

Greens working on Foreign Policy apparently. Decisons to be made at the Autumn conference which is liable to be crazy.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/snchez-doctrine-greens-remaking-foreign-policy-offer

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1984Now · 10/06/2026 11:42

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 10/06/2026 10:45

Thanks for the link, it's hilarious, Count Binface gets my vote. I like the whole manifesto but points 6, 8 & 15 are the best. 😂

I loved the Monster Raving manifesto for my candidate in 2019.
Teenagers not allowed out in public after dark.
The Channel Tunnel to be perforated to provide a car wash en route to France.
Got my vote, chose not to vote for the liar Johnson.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 10/06/2026 10:45

ArabellaScott · 10/06/2026 09:36

Squaring things is for squares, Lalgarh.

This kind of fine detail is all just boring to Zack, who has apparently just nicked Count Binface's first manifesto promise and is beating it to death.

https://countbinface.com/makerfieldmanifesto

Thanks for the link, it's hilarious, Count Binface gets my vote. I like the whole manifesto but points 6, 8 & 15 are the best. 😂

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 10/06/2026 09:46

dolorsit · 08/06/2026 14:24

It’s the Palestinian flag- not sure what that’s got to do with Palantir.

Maybe both words start with Pal so they're confused and think there's a connection? Maybe they think Palantir is somehow anti-Palestine? I think that's as reasonable an explanation as any other given their documented inability to understand things as clear as the Supreme court judgement.

ArabellaScott · 10/06/2026 09:36

Lalgarh · 09/06/2026 08:50

Telegraph just shit posting now. "Food is too cheap" is actually a long held position of the greens BC food miles etc so it's actually interesting to see ZP still advocate for it here

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/06/08/food-is-too-cheap-claims-zack-polanski/

Though how this squares with campaigning on the cost of living and cheaper energy is something I'm not sure he can explain

Squaring things is for squares, Lalgarh.

This kind of fine detail is all just boring to Zack, who has apparently just nicked Count Binface's first manifesto promise and is beating it to death.

https://countbinface.com/makerfieldmanifesto

Makerfield Manifesto 2026 — Count Binface

https://countbinface.com/makerfieldmanifesto

DrBlackbird · 09/06/2026 23:31

I see the anti-tech, anti-USA brigade are flapping their gums again. If it's helping the NHS to cut waiting times, to be more productive, and it's helping people the get the operations etc that they need, we need to keep the system.

I’m not anti-tech nor am I anti-USA nor am I flapping my gums but I think we need to be very careful about who we are sharing our most personal sensitive data with. Neither the current Palantir executives nor the men who started it are trustworthy or have the best intentions for us or British society as a whole.

In fact, they openly express some extremely worrying beliefs and certainly do not the safety, security or interests of women as any part of their thinking.

Alex Karp is the Palantir CEO. He said "I love the idea of getting a drone and having light fentanyl-laced urine spraying on analysts that tried to screw us." His recently posted ‘manifesto’ is profoundly anti-democratic.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gjkj7975

https://theconversation.com/supervillain-or-cicero-why-palantirs-manifesto-has-such-sinister-vibes-281521

Peter Thiel is the founder of Palantir. He talks about the Antichrist. At one point he speculated it might be Greta Thunberg. He’s married to his husband but his lover died by ‘jumping off a Miami apartment building’. His protege is JD Vance who used to work for him. Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI met his husband in Peter Thiel’s hot tub. Sam Altman recently signed an agreement to supply ChatGPT to the US govt for uses that includes whole scale surveillance of the American public and autonomous weaponry. Conditions that Anthropic refused to agree to for use of its superior AI model.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/16/europe/peter-thiel-antichrist-lectures-rome-intl

https://apnews.com/article/italy-peter-thiel-paypal-pope-vatican-c3a6c7d2daba501caf8152558ac2d743

These are the people that you’re happy to have access to your most personal health data? None of these billionaires have our best interest at heart.

Alex Karp, wearing a blue suit and shirt, speaks on a stage against a dark blue backdrop

Palantir under fire for X 'manifesto' from co-founder Alex Karp

The boss of the controversial tech company with UK government contracts published a 22-point plan on the future of the West.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gjkj7975po

DrBlackbird · 09/06/2026 22:53

Lalgarh · 09/06/2026 08:50

Telegraph just shit posting now. "Food is too cheap" is actually a long held position of the greens BC food miles etc so it's actually interesting to see ZP still advocate for it here

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/06/08/food-is-too-cheap-claims-zack-polanski/

Though how this squares with campaigning on the cost of living and cheaper energy is something I'm not sure he can explain

You’re not asking for logic from ZP are you? It’s all just posturing soundbites.

Lalgarh · 09/06/2026 08:50

Telegraph just shit posting now. "Food is too cheap" is actually a long held position of the greens BC food miles etc so it's actually interesting to see ZP still advocate for it here

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/06/08/food-is-too-cheap-claims-zack-polanski/

Though how this squares with campaigning on the cost of living and cheaper energy is something I'm not sure he can explain

ArabellaScott · 09/06/2026 07:40

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/06/2026 20:10

Ah and there it is they're protesting about the Jews again, everyday in everyway they show they're hate and bigotry. 🤮

Thanks for the link to the article, it sounds like it's doing a good job for the NHS, I see the anti-tech, anti-USA brigade are flapping they're gums again. If it's helping the NHS to cut waiting times, to be more productive, and it's helping people the get the operations etc that they need, we need to keep the system. We've had plenty of time in this country to develop tech systems and we didn't, we can't do away with something that is working until we can replace it with something as good, if not better, and the chances of this country producing anything like that is zero.

It would be naive to assume Palantir, or the government, have entirely pure motives wrt data gathering, or are entirely safe hands.

Lalgarh · 08/06/2026 23:52

I'm thinking Marwan isn't a trans Ally little Zack.

And in Pride month! 😀 🌈

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/06/2026 21:12

Lalgarh · 08/06/2026 21:05

T shirt 👕 trouble.

Not Dave was wearing a t shirt calling for the release of Marwan Barghouti. Some have described him as the "Palestinian Mandela", which is what ZP is going for when asked awkward questions

https://nitter.net/ZackPolanski/status/2063973835746005285#m

Thanks for the link, the comments were uniformly negative, I wonder if he reads any of the comments to his posts, it'll be hard not to figure out, even for a dimwit, that he's a complete buffoon judging by the reaction he's getting.

I liked this reply😂
As the Iranian money dries up, the Palestinian cause dies like a fart in the wind
Go find another hobby, douchebag.

Lalgarh · 08/06/2026 21:05

T shirt 👕 trouble.

Not Dave was wearing a t shirt calling for the release of Marwan Barghouti. Some have described him as the "Palestinian Mandela", which is what ZP is going for when asked awkward questions

https://nitter.net/ZackPolanski/status/2063973835746005285#m

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/06/2026 20:10

Ah and there it is they're protesting about the Jews again, everyday in everyway they show they're hate and bigotry. 🤮

Thanks for the link to the article, it sounds like it's doing a good job for the NHS, I see the anti-tech, anti-USA brigade are flapping they're gums again. If it's helping the NHS to cut waiting times, to be more productive, and it's helping people the get the operations etc that they need, we need to keep the system. We've had plenty of time in this country to develop tech systems and we didn't, we can't do away with something that is working until we can replace it with something as good, if not better, and the chances of this country producing anything like that is zero.

ArabellaScott · 08/06/2026 17:04

dolorsit · 08/06/2026 14:24

It’s the Palestinian flag- not sure what that’s got to do with Palantir.

Have they ... did they just read the first three letters and assume?

JanesLittleGirl · 08/06/2026 17:03

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/06/2026 15:37

Palantir - is engaged in building software to assist in counterterrorism investigations and operations.

I can see why the Pallies are protesting all though I don't why the NHS are using Palantir systems.

Here is an article from the Telegraph about Palantir's involvement in the NHS:

archive.ph/WmD7c

Chersfrozenface · 08/06/2026 15:45

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/06/2026 15:37

Palantir - is engaged in building software to assist in counterterrorism investigations and operations.

I can see why the Pallies are protesting all though I don't why the NHS are using Palantir systems.

Not that I'm very tech savvy, but I know Palantir develops data integration and analytics software.

One of the frequent complaints about NHS data is how fragmented it is, so I presume the intention is to use the company's software to integrate the myriad of databases.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/06/2026 15:37

Palantir - is engaged in building software to assist in counterterrorism investigations and operations.

I can see why the Pallies are protesting all though I don't why the NHS are using Palantir systems.

Chersfrozenface · 08/06/2026 15:22

dolorsit · 08/06/2026 14:24

It’s the Palestinian flag- not sure what that’s got to do with Palantir.

Two elements of the Omnicause.

(Only two? Slackers!)