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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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fromorbit · 02/05/2026 11:45

Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Greens internal drama warms up | Mumsnet

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts. *How the Green Party forgot...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

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1984Now · 01/08/2026 13:41

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 01/08/2026 06:16

Another handmaiden voted in, good job Manchester. 😠

The voting seems to have become polarised as well, Reform seems destined to be ever the bridesmaid never the bride, with the Greens trailing after them, like the kid no one wants to play with.

What does that make the Tories, coming after Restore?
The shit on people's shoes?

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 01/08/2026 06:20

1984Now · 31/07/2026 23:41

Restore (just) trump the Tories?
That's terrible.
I wonder what the views of the new Labour major are on the SC ruling/ECHR advice, and the grooming gangs scandal in the NW?
Until Labour show some sort of principled lead in these two areas, I'll cut off my hand before putting an X against a Labour candidate. And any LD, Green.

Edited

According to a video I saw on all the candidates'replies when they were asked a question about the SC's clarification and the guidance, she's another woman who's all about the 'trans'. 🤮

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 01/08/2026 06:16

Another handmaiden voted in, good job Manchester. 😠

The voting seems to have become polarised as well, Reform seems destined to be ever the bridesmaid never the bride, with the Greens trailing after them, like the kid no one wants to play with.

Lalgarh · 01/08/2026 00:22

Speculation that it's because the students are on summer break

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/08/2026 00:07

Lalgarh · 31/07/2026 23:28

From

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/labours-bev-craig-wins-greater-34384198

Greens 3rd which is perfectly respectable in 1st choice votes of 12% , which was what they polled pre Zack

The first round result in the Greater Manchester mayoral election was:

  • Bev Craig (Lab) 251,449 (47.15%)
  • Sian Astley (Reform) 111,928 (20.99%)
  • Geraldine Coggins (Green) 64,968 (12.18%)
  • Marlon West (Restore) 46,289 (8.68%)
  • Phil Eckersley (Con) 41,021 (7.69%)
  • Richard Kilpatrick (LD) 14,702 (2.76%)
  • Marcus Farmer (Ind) 2,969 (0.56%)

The second round result, after the distribution of the votes of the five eliminated candidates, was:

  • Bev Craig (Lab) 309,525
  • Sian Astley (Reform) 157,178
Edited

Weren’t they supposed to be polling more with the Zackster at the helm?

1984Now · 31/07/2026 23:41

Restore (just) trump the Tories?
That's terrible.
I wonder what the views of the new Labour major are on the SC ruling/ECHR advice, and the grooming gangs scandal in the NW?
Until Labour show some sort of principled lead in these two areas, I'll cut off my hand before putting an X against a Labour candidate. And any LD, Green.

Lalgarh · 31/07/2026 23:28

From

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/labours-bev-craig-wins-greater-34384198

Greens 3rd which is perfectly respectable in 1st choice votes of 12% , which was what they polled pre Zack

The first round result in the Greater Manchester mayoral election was:

  • Bev Craig (Lab) 251,449 (47.15%)
  • Sian Astley (Reform) 111,928 (20.99%)
  • Geraldine Coggins (Green) 64,968 (12.18%)
  • Marlon West (Restore) 46,289 (8.68%)
  • Phil Eckersley (Con) 41,021 (7.69%)
  • Richard Kilpatrick (LD) 14,702 (2.76%)
  • Marcus Farmer (Ind) 2,969 (0.56%)

The second round result, after the distribution of the votes of the five eliminated candidates, was:

  • Bev Craig (Lab) 309,525
  • Sian Astley (Reform) 157,178

Labour's Bev Craig wins Greater Manchester mayoral election

The Labour Party has retained the mayoralty following the departure of Andy Burnham

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/labours-bev-craig-wins-greater-34384198

ArabellaScott · 31/07/2026 22:26

Oh interesting.

Lalgarh · 31/07/2026 21:40

Greens don't seem to have made it to the Final 2 for the Manchester mayoral race.

It's Labour v Reform on the Single Transferrable Vote

fromorbit · 30/07/2026 07:13

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/07/2026 15:59

Exactly, he’d never be able to argue that women shouldn’t be allowed female only spaces without falling back on the mantra and #nodebate

He thinks it is totally fine that the Greens harassed a bunch of people, mainly women, who believe biology is a thing for years and doesn't want them in the party.

At the same time he thinks Mothin Ali who not only doesn't believe in trans stuff, but also is a sexist war loving twat who has issues with Jews is a great deputy leader.

Thing is I it is clear his nonsense is coming home to roost. As we have discussed in this thread many times the next Green conference is going to be insane with anti-Semitic stuff , hating women, plus anti Nato ideas being debated. Meanwhile will the climate crisis get discussed much there ?

What will the Greens do if they lose the court cases about them hating women which seems likely?

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Lalgarh · 29/07/2026 16:39

Oh it's the mayoral election in Manchester tomorrow. I think today is the last day the news can do anything on this as tomorrow they have to maintain news blackout on anything that could be seen as political

ArabellaScott · 29/07/2026 16:25

I recall him just upping and fucking off when debates got a bit sticky in GPEW conference.

He's not interested in anything except his own career.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/07/2026 15:59

Lalgarh · 29/07/2026 15:54

He's got quite a short attention span and he craves adulation. I don't think he's in politics to actually make policies, as at some point he'd have to defend doing something unpopular or argue with people with opposing viewpoints try to persuade them and not succeed .

He's mainly in politics as a fuck you to his acting career and in the greens as a fuck you to the lib Dems who wouldn't put him into a safe seat to contest it n the 2010s

Exactly, he’d never be able to argue that women shouldn’t be allowed female only spaces without falling back on the mantra and #nodebate

ThreeWordHarpy · 29/07/2026 15:55

It’s astonishing how quickly our expectations and standards have fallen in our institutions and elected officials.

There’s a huge chunk of the population who still think the UK is a generally well run and honest country that doesn’t tolerate corruption, and things like the Post Office/Horizon scandal are a one off. We are due some very “interesting” times in the coming years.

Lalgarh · 29/07/2026 15:54

He's got quite a short attention span and he craves adulation. I don't think he's in politics to actually make policies, as at some point he'd have to defend doing something unpopular or argue with people with opposing viewpoints try to persuade them and not succeed .

He's mainly in politics as a fuck you to his acting career and in the greens as a fuck you to the lib Dems who wouldn't put him into a safe seat to contest it n the 2010s

1984Now · 29/07/2026 15:52

ArabellaScott · 29/07/2026 13:17

Polanski claims Farage complaining about his posting of the guillotine threat has put Polanski in a 'dangerous spot'.

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2082223116881625113

Out fucking rageous.

Up there with the "excluding trans women from women's spaces puts all women at risk" inside out, up is down, reality-defying statement.

Beowulfa · 29/07/2026 13:38

Can you imagine old school political heavyweights like Major, Cook or Smith acting like this?

ArabellaScott · 29/07/2026 12:55

Ach. MN is fucking up the archive link.

'In a series of tweets in 2020, Hasan expressed regret for "having expressed offensive & illiberal views in the past on everything from homosexuality to abortion" and stated that they were views he no longer holds'

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210614183105/twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1280693015280078848" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20210614183105/twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1280693015280078848

ArabellaScott · 29/07/2026 12:53

Pro life Mehdi Hassan?

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130105073414/www.newstatesman.com/lifestyle/lifestyle/2012/10/being-pro-life-doesnt-make-me-any-less-lefty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20130105073414/www.newstatesman.com/lifestyle/lifestyle/2012/10/being-pro-life-doesnt-make-me-any-less-lefty

Lalgarh · 29/07/2026 12:46

I'm wondering if the "senior source in the green party" is nice Lib Dem alike Rachel Millward.

Polanski is back to boosting the greens in Manchester and advertising his appearance in new channel from Mehdi Hassan, Zeteo UK (look out 5pillars).

An unhelpful bigot has decided to post footage of Hassan ranting about gays being deviants in the replies.

https://nitter.net/Montpop2000/status/2082356711638069428#m

ArabellaScott · 29/07/2026 12:27

'... few were hugely surprised when Polanski pressed the “collaborate” button on an Instagram post comprising about 20 photos from an event he attended, the first a photo of himself.'

'It has also left the Greens wondering whether the sort of carpet-bombing approach to social media that helped Polanski build his profile needs to change, and particularly whether he needs help on this.'

It's like government by AI. Superficially appears convincing, but prone to horrendous aberration and possible hallucinated mistakes that could create real risk.

fromorbit · 29/07/2026 12:14

Lalgarh · 29/07/2026 12:08

This feels almost heretical coming from the Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/29/honeymoon-over-zack-polanski-burnham-green

I wonder if this might trigger him into more unforced errors online

Massive male Ego issues Trump, Farage, Putin, Polanski. all similar.

The Greens have dipped in the polls. ZP is desperate and when guys like that get desperate they do random stuff and dig in. Of course then they spiral deeper.

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ArabellaScott · 29/07/2026 12:12

nutmeg7 · 29/07/2026 09:38

He is exactly that. He comes across as arrogant but brittle and snarky when challenged.

Refusing to apologise because it was a careless mistake rather than deliberate.

Splitting hairs. He should apologise for being so bloody careless when he is in a position of responsibility.

He is immature and with a massive but fragile ego.

Yep. Imagine a potential PM 'accidentally' calling for the execution of a rival politician.

It's not good, whatever way you cut it.

He's associating with extremists, he's careless, he's not checking his statements, he doesn't realise the influence and power he has, he doesn't care, he is unable to recognise his mistake, he is sloppy, he is not that fussed by political violence ...

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