Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

yes, I boggled at that. How gangster.

Probably the sweet spot for Labour would be Burnham just representing Starmerism with northern characteristics. There are deeper reasons for the government's unpopularity, and I don't think Burnham can fix them, but simply replacing Starmer with Burnham would have to be worth a few points on the basis of Burnham being a good communicator with a likeable persona, and not having some of Starmer's specific pitfalls like the endless low-level scandals and the personal association with two-tier policing.

Unfortunately Andy is a windsock and will go along with what's popular in the PLP, which will usually be the opposite of what's popular with the median voter.

As for the others, I don't think Lowe's outfit has much long-term viability (after running a schizophrenic by-election campaign where they wouldn't let the candidate do any media, and tried to appeal both to ex-BNP types by saying "vote for us because Nigel is an open borders lefty" and to Facebook mums by saying "vote for us because the Reform candidate made some sexist jokes on the Wigan Warriors forum in 2014") - and I assume eventually Elon will lose interest and move on.

Is the air going out of the Polanski bubble? Not that I think Carla Denyer is a political genius, but would the Greens have brighter prospects if she'd stayed on?

Probably the sweet spot for Labour would be Burnham just representing Starmerism with northern characteristics. There are deeper reasons for the government's unpopularity, and I don't think Burnham can fix them, but simply replacing Starmer with Burnham would have to be worth a few points on the basis of Burnham being a good communicator with a likeable persona, and not having some of Starmer's specific pitfalls like the endless low-level scandals and the personal association with two-tier policing.

Unfortunately Andy is a windsock and will go along with what's popular in the PLP, which will usually be the opposite of what's popular with the median voter.

As for the others, I don't think Lowe's outfit has much long-term viability (after running a schizophrenic by-election campaign where they wouldn't let the candidate do any media, and tried to appeal both to ex-BNP types by saying "vote for us because Nigel is an open borders lefty" and to Facebook mums by saying "vote for us because the Reform candidate made some sexist jokes on the Wigan Warriors forum in 2014") - and I assume eventually Elon will lose interest and move on.

Is the air going out of the Polanski bubble? Not that I think Carla Denyer is a political genius, but would the Greens have brighter prospects if she'd stayed on?

he arrived in a blacked-out white SUV surrounded by lackeys

So Green. Much eco.

Great article:

The useful idiocy of Zack Polanski
Polanski has done everything he possibly could to disassociate himself from his own previous Zionism, but it is not enough. It never would be. Because Zionism isn’t the problem.

Zack Polanski might think he is winning. Thanks to him, the Greens have doubled their membership, won a number of councils, and are poised to gain real political influence if the next election is tight.

He is lauded as a hero. On Wednesday night, as he arrived to help out Green Party members canvassing in a Hove by-election, he arrived in a blacked-out white SUV surrounded by lackeys. He probably felt he was on top. In control.

But, quite rapidly, it appears that any power he thought he might have had is being wrested from him.

Part of this is of his own making. The revelation that he did not pay council tax while living on a narrow boat, queries over whether he ever qualified as a hypnotherapist, derision over the time he tried to hypnotise a Sun journalist into growing her boobs and – most importantly – the fact he criticised police officers trying to stop the Golders Green stabber have all chipped away at his popularity.

To push back, he’s doubled and tripled down on his AsAJew status. He can barely utter a sentence without spitting out ‘the genocide’. He has constantly demanded that the UK should end arms sales to Israel and investigate the country for war crimes. He has backed sporting and cultural boycotts of Israeli football teams and supported the monitoring of UK-Israeli dual nationals who served in the IDF, saying they could be responsible for war crimes.

He didn’t even speak out against the Green party’s ‘Zionism is racism’ motion, even though it would mean labelling his own family – most of whom are Zionists and a few of whom made Aliyah – racists.

But still it isn’t enough for those who are really in control. Et tu, Mothin Ali? Because, yes, it is Zack’s trusty deputy who is on manoeuvres. Who could have guessed?

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/the-useful-idiocy-of-zack-polanski/

Yes, I noticed the presence in that stunt of "Young Bob", a 17yo Restore influencer who seems determined to make himself unemployable before he's ever had a job. His usual shtick is to travel around the country trying to goad Muslims into beating him up.

I suppose he adds to the national gaiety.

Im sorry but guilty lol at that stunt.

#moreincommon

Lots of Restore's online supporters think they're going to win. But many of them are Americans, who think Elon Musk understands UK politics, and many of the British contingent are not exactly deep thinkers.

Ben Habib, who is more intelligent that half of Restore's membership put together, is talking about 5% being a win. Take that however you like.

There are also a lot of Restore supporters in the branches who didn't want to stand a candidate. Those people aren't actually far right - they're just people who like Reform policies but want Rupert in charge instead of Nigel. They're very vibes based - basically they think Rupert is a nice man and Nigel was mean to him, and that's their politics.

The point is that Alistair Harrison (who hardly anyone has heard of, but he's the guy who runs Restore and operates the "Rupert Lowe" social media accounts) - this is the guy who decided to stand in a by-election where they didn't have an organisation and could only anklebite Reform; he picked the candidate, this daft woman with a SEND pony rides business who didn't appear to know her own policies, and has not been allowed to do interviews; he's the guy behind stupid stunts like, today on polling day, getting a handful of Restore activists to rent a van, put a MUSLIMS FOR REFORM logo on it, and drive around after the Reform bus - which is exactly the sort of genius idea that will get you arrested for breaches of electoral law.

Alistair Harrison is a card-carrying pillock. But, in a party with no deputy leader or chair or executive or shadow spokespeople, he's the pillock who has the ear of Sleepy Rupert.